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#21
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by Nick B - May 19, 2025, 08:54:15 AM
Quote from: rollo on May 18, 2025, 09:16:42 AMStatic charges can be an issue. Back in the day when appearance meant nothing I used string to hang every signal cable. Used a wire loop at end of string to hold cable. An old Harvey Rosenberg tweak. For power cords, kept them from wiring in wall and all other cables where possible. Definitely heard less noise which gave more musical info. Looked weird but worked. Today I use Ceramic risers for speaker cables. No cable touches any other. Power cords cross at 90 degrees and away from signal cables. Worth the effort IMHO.


charles

Thanks for the tip about the ceramic risers. I'm still collecting information about all the different options. I am trying to imagine what your string and wire loop system looked like.
#22
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by rollo - May 18, 2025, 09:16:42 AM
Static charges can be an issue. Back in the day when appearance meant nothing I used string to hang every signal cable. Used a wire loop at end of string to hold cable. An old Harvey Rosenberg tweak. For power cords, kept them from wiring in wall and all other cables where possible. Definitely heard less noise which gave more musical info. Looked weird but worked. Today I use Ceramic risers for speaker cables. No cable touches any other. Power cords cross at 90 degrees and away from signal cables. Worth the effort IMHO.


charles
#23
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by Nick B - May 17, 2025, 03:38:25 PM
Thanks, Dave. I like the video and the idea of a wooden product a little bit better than plastic. I have engineered (fake) flooring throughout much of the house and it has a thin, cushioned material in between. In the heavy traffic areas of the house, that has been compressed. But not in the area of the living room where the stereo system resides. There is a small 5 x 7 area rug in front of the system. As I tend to crank the system up quite a bit, I was more concerned about micro vibrations than static electricity. And I just plain curious as I've never messed with cable risers.

I found these on AliExpress and I like the fact that they're cheap and wooden. See the top left on the screen. I think the smallest size might work well on its side

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807150358309.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.13.599chuO4huO41S&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3Apc_back_same_best&algo_pvid=ac55e5a0-88de-4cf6-bc6e-d045ffd654b6&algo_exp_id=ac55e5a0-88de-4cf6-bc6e-d045ffd654b6&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%224%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2115.58%215.30%21%21%21111.51%2137.92%21%402101c5b217475208046176551e5479%2112000040316739487%21sea%21US%210%21ABX&gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt
#24
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by P.I. - May 17, 2025, 01:10:41 PM
OK...
Start watching @: 7:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaSpc7GOjxA

FWIW, here are some observations.  Hardwood floor over a crawlspace can do with risers 3" or taller.  Nylon and polyester carpets laid on a slab need at least 6" or more.

If plastic risers are used spray them with Static Guard or very dilute fabric softener.
#25
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by ejk - May 17, 2025, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: Nick B on May 17, 2025, 10:03:11 AM
Quote from: ejk on May 17, 2025, 02:47:42 AMThis is before the headphone stands

Thanks. I have saved both. Might take a drive to Home Depot today. Any perceived differences....less noise, wider soundstage etc??

None at all. I just use them to keep the cables away from eachother to prevent noise
#26
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by Nick B - May 17, 2025, 10:03:11 AM
Quote from: ejk on May 17, 2025, 02:47:42 AMThis is before the headphone stands

Thanks. I have saved both. Might take a drive to Home Depot today. Any perceived differences....less noise, wider soundstage etc??
#27
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by ejk - May 17, 2025, 02:47:42 AM
This is before the headphone stands
#28
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by ejk - May 17, 2025, 02:44:44 AM
These are old pics. I have neatened  it up since
#29
Bipolar System Disorders / Re: cable risers
Last post by ejk - May 17, 2025, 02:41:02 AM
Quote from: Nick B on May 16, 2025, 09:16:12 PMWith my system sounding very good nowadays, I thought I'd try cable risers for the first time. Definitely for the speaker cables and I'm open to trying them for power cords too. I am not interested in paying $100 for 3, that type of pricing. Whatever I use, it needs to be reasonably presentable as my system is in the living room. If I need to add a thin later of rubber or another product on the bottom, I would gladly do that.

Suggestions welcome   
Nick

Here you go. I use rebar chairs from home depot for power cords and headphone stands for my speaker cables. The rebar chairs can be bought at Home Depot, you can by singles also. Link for headphone stands on Amazon



https://a.co/d/gtyZtts
#30
Album Reviews / Re: What are you listening to ...
Last post by Nick B - May 16, 2025, 10:32:59 PM
16/44 streamed via JPLAY