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opinions wanted on subwoofers
Jack:
As you would expect I am going to stick with the recommendation I have already made and that is the RSl Speedwoofer 10S Mk II. I have used a pair at the house in Greenville with four different speakers including two that you have owned, the Fritz Carrera Be and the Reynaud Abscisse. In addition they have also been paired with the Reynaud Bliss and now for the last 18 months the Rosso Fiorentino Voltera 2. In each case they have blended in easily whether wired speaker level or line level. While they are certainly not the equal of the Rythmik F12's at the house in Florida they more than get the job done bass wise and as that other member told you add to the sense of space and soundstage. At $449 a piece or $898 for a recommended pair they are really hard to beat with free shipping and a 30 day trial period. If they fail to live up to what you expect you send them back for $50 a piece with their shipping label which is a lot less than it would cost you to ship them and easier than trying to sell them yourself as you would with other brands. With the price increase at Rythmik the price of the pair of Speedwoofers will only get you about 2/3 of a single Rythmik sub. Only other "known" option I am familiar with would be the SVS SB-1000 Pro at $1149 a pair.
https://rslspeakers.com/speedwoofer10s-mkii/
https://www.svsound.com/products/sb-1000-pro-subwoofer
No familiarity with the Goldenear subs but have owned a pair of their speakers back when they were an independent company and not part of Audioquest. My experience with them is that while their products are well built their stats are greatly exaggerated.
Jack:
Nick
A friend of mine in Tallahassee bought a pair of Speedwoofer 10 MK II's a couple of months ago that I helped him integrate with a pair of Odyssey Lorelei speakers he bought from me. He bought the wireless modules for some reason even though the subs were going to be within a few feet of the mains and the rack. We tried them both wireless and wired and both thought wired was better even using a pair of cheap Amazon RCA cables. If you are going to be placing them along the same front wall as the VG's the no need for the wireless device as a cheap pair of RCA cables is all you need. While we had them hooked up with the wireless devices we tried multiple locations in the room and in the end what logically seemed the best location to start with was.
GDHAL:
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--- Quote from: GDHAL on July 10, 2023, 09:47:00 AM ---Not wireless but I think it meets your other criteria. :thumb:
https://www.goldenear.com/subwoofers/forcefield-series/forcefield-3
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Hal,
That looks like a really nice sub and good value. Nice design to also include the down firing sub. Do you have any idea if there is such a thing as a third party wireless device that could be used on these or any other subs that aren't designed wireless capable?
Nick
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Hi Nick. I honestly have no idea about wireless options where speakers are concerned. I do know that when it comes to audio, any wireless option would degrade sound quality compared to a wired equivalent.
I looked at your room photo and cannot understand why wired would be problematic.
In any case, the GoldenEar is probably the best bang for the buck. Also, download the spec sheet and install PDF files. The specs on the website are ultra conservative because Audioquest parameters put specs tremendously in favor of the consumer. Meaning actual performance will be much better (not that the Audioquest specs are bad) as GoldenEar reports in their specs.
Not trying or meaning to be a salesman, and I do own GE speakers, but for real they cannot be beat from a *value* perspective.
There are a lot of other good suggestions in this thread, so you have much to ponder 🤔
Best
Hal
Nick B:
--- Quote from: GDHAL on July 10, 2023, 07:14:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Nick B on July 10, 2023, 06:14:47 PM ---
--- Quote from: GDHAL on July 10, 2023, 09:47:00 AM ---Not wireless but I think it meets your other criteria. :thumb:
https://www.goldenear.com/subwoofers/forcefield-series/forcefield-3
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Hal,
That looks like a really nice sub and good value. Nice design to also include the down firing sub. Do you have any idea if there is such a thing as a third party wireless device that could be used on these or any other subs that aren't designed wireless capable?
Nick
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Hi Nick. I honestly have no idea about wireless options where speakers are concerned. I do know that when it comes to audio, any wireless option would degrade sound quality compared to a wired equivalent.
I looked at your room photo and cannot understand why wired would be problematic.
In any case, the GoldenEar is probably the best bang for the buck. Also, download the spec sheet and install PDF files. The specs on the website are ultra conservative because Audioquest parameters put specs tremendously in favor of the consumer. Meaning actual performance will be much better (not that the Audioquest specs are bad) as GoldenEar reports in their specs.
Not trying or meaning to be a salesman, and I do own GE speakers, but for real they cannot be beat from a *value* perspective.
There are a lot of other good suggestions in this thread, so you have much to ponder 🤔
Best
Hal
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Hal,
I was thinking wireless because I recently moved and it became obvious that I still have too much "stuff". That's why I'm digitizing all my photos that are in albums and shoeboxes. I'll do the same for all my CDs and no longer be keeping any, either selling, donating or discarding the rest.
Having said that, I've always been wireless in my streaming and it's always given me grief...until I took Jack's advice and bought a TP Link wireless mesh system. It works flawlessly and a wired connection to my Holo Red streamer and Mac desktop, which houses the Roon core, has solved ALL my streaming issues and Roon runs flawlessly. So my desire for less stuff and fewer wires is tempered by reality and what works well and saves me a lot of aggravation.
I do like the GE quite a bit. Jack's suggestions in the past have worked out great and the RSL looks like a great value as well. Ideally, 8" servo controlled subs sold as a kit with or without the wood/mdf are the most intriguing to me. But there is no such kit that I could find and a finished 8" dual sub comes in at $1,000 and I'd want two.
I thought it would be fun and informative to open up the discussion here and I'm learning a lot. Ive owned a lot of equipment over the last 35+ years, but never any subs. So i'm treading carefully considering doing this.
Jack:
I didn't pay that much attention to see if GE or SVS have any type of return policy and if so what it costs.
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