Looking for a used Modi 2 dac (obtained)

[steve]

I am looking for a used Modi 2 dac to purchase. Please PM me.

Thanks.

steve

[James Edward]

PM sent

[steve]

PM sent

Thanks for the offer James but I needed the same model due to the parts I use.
I obtained one close by and all is well and bliss.

Thanks again for the offer James.

steve

[steve]

Received a generous gift from another, so I can compare the original to my upgraded dac.

cheers

steve

[Nick B]

Received a generous gift from another, so I can compare the original to my upgraded dac.

cheers

steve

Let us know what you think, Steve. By the way, I really love my Holo Cyan2 dac. What an excellent dac and a great bargain for the money 🎶

[steve]

Received a generous gift from another, so I can compare the original to my upgraded dac.

cheers

steve

Let us know what you think, Steve. By the way, I really love my Holo Cyan2 dac. What an excellent dac and a great bargain for the money 🎶

I compared the original Modi 2 and my upgraded one and no contest.
Polypropylene capacitors in the analog power supply clearly elevate it to a
top notch position.

Are you thinking upgrade Cyan2 analog stage?

cheers

steve

[Nick B]

Received a generous gift from another, so I can compare the original to my upgraded dac.

cheers

steve

Let us know what you think, Steve. By the way, I really love my Holo Cyan2 dac. What an excellent dac and a great bargain for the money 🎶

I compared the original Modi 2 and my upgraded one and no contest.
Polypropylene capacitors in the analog power supply clearly elevate it to a
top notch position.

Are you thinking upgrade Cyan2 analog stage?

cheers

steve

Glad you were able to confirm that. The Cyan2 is a quality piece, very compact and very heavy and built like a tank. I would not want anyone to mess with it.

With a different piece like the Starkrimson Ultra amp, there's lots of room within the chassis. So having someone mod that would not be a problem for me.

[steve]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

[Nick B]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

[steve]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

I have a friend who really likes the Apple OS. It does sound wonderful.

Yes, going all polypropylene filter caps with DA of 0,02% in the analog
sections of any dac, and preamplifier will improve the performance of
said components to world class.

Another key is finding the correct value ufd, best materials and termination
technique of said capacitors.

cheers
steve

[Nick B]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

I have a friend who really likes the Apple OS. It does sound wonderful.

Yes, going all polypropylene filter caps with DA of 0,02% in the analog
sections of any dac, and preamplifier will improve the performance of
said components to world class.

Another key is finding the correct value ufd, best materials and termination
technique of said capacitors.

cheers
steve

Steve,

The Apple ecosystem has worked great for me since I started using it exclusively in about 2013. I've been able to call support hundreds of times with questions and they are available seven days a week.

You mentioned termination techniques on caps and I'm hoping you can elaborate a bit on that. Do you mean different solders, solderless or ...?

[steve]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

I have a friend who really likes the Apple OS. It does sound wonderful.

Yes, going all polypropylene filter caps with DA of 0,02% in the analog
sections of any dac, and preamplifier will improve the performance of
said components to world class.

Another key is finding the correct value ufd, best materials and termination
technique of said capacitors.

cheers
steve

Steve,

The Apple ecosystem has worked great for me since I started using it exclusively in about 2013. I've been able to call support hundreds of times with questions and they are available seven days a week.

You mentioned termination techniques on caps and I'm hoping you can elaborate a bit on that. Do you mean different solders, solderless or ...?

Some info is directed for newbies to more easily understand my reply to Nick.

With that said, capacitors are usually round in nature. Two conductor plates with insulating
material is wound into a cylinder shape. One lead is to one conductor and the other lead
is connected to the other conductor.

Different ways to connect the lead wire to its respective foil.

1. A lead wire is simply connected to the edge of the foil, at only
one point on the foil.

Important: See fig. A and B. I am talking internally, NOT what you see when looking at
the outside as shown.

    A. When lead wire is connected to one point on the foil, say near the center
of the body's radius, and the other lead wire is connected to the opposite foil,
near the outside edge of the capacitor's body, the sound is usually fuller.

    B. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the center of the capacitor
body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    C. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the outside edge of the
capacitor body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    D. One can vary the distance between connection points adjust the brightness or
fullness of the sound. However, this is still not conducive to optimum accuracy.



2. A lead wire is placed across the edges of the foil. More contact than point 1.
See fig. C

3. A lead wire is centered and metallic spray is sprayed across a portion or all of the
edges of the respective foils. This minimizes the inductance created by rolling the foil.
See fig. D. The thickness and material(s) used will affect the accuracy.

Wish I could be a better artist, but no such fortune.

cheers
steve

[Admin]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

I have a friend who really likes the Apple OS. It does sound wonderful.

Yes, going all polypropylene filter caps with DA of 0,02% in the analog
sections of any dac, and preamplifier will improve the performance of
said components to world class.

Another key is finding the correct value ufd, best materials and termination
technique of said capacitors.

cheers
steve

Steve,

The Apple ecosystem has worked great for me since I started using it exclusively in about 2013. I've been able to call support hundreds of times with questions and they are available seven days a week.

You mentioned termination techniques on caps and I'm hoping you can elaborate a bit on that. Do you mean different solders, solderless or ...?

Some info is directed for newbies to more easily understand my reply to Nick.

With that said, capacitors are usually round in nature. Two conductor plates with insulating
material is wound into a cylinder shape. One lead is to one conductor and the other lead
is connected to the other conductor.

Different ways to connect the lead wire to its respective foil.

1. A lead wire is simply connected to the edge of the foil, at only
one point on the foil.

Important: See fig. A and B. I am talking internally, NOT what you see when looking at
the outside as shown.

    A. When lead wire is connected to one point on the foil, say near the center
of the body's radius, and the other lead wire is connected to the opposite foil,
near the outside edge of the capacitor's body, the sound is usually fuller.

    B. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the center of the capacitor
body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    C. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the outside edge of the
capacitor body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    D. One can vary the distance between connection points adjust the brightness or
fullness of the sound. However, this is still not conducive to optimum accuracy.



2. A lead wire is placed across the edges of the foil. More contact than point 1.
See fig. C

3. A lead wire is centered and metallic spray is sprayed across a portion or all of the
edges of the respective foils. This minimizes the inductance created by rolling the foil.
See fig. D. The thickness and material(s) used will affect the accuracy.

Wish I could be a better artist, but no such fortune.

cheers
steve

[Nick B]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

I have a friend who really likes the Apple OS. It does sound wonderful.

Yes, going all polypropylene filter caps with DA of 0,02% in the analog
sections of any dac, and preamplifier will improve the performance of
said components to world class.

Another key is finding the correct value ufd, best materials and termination
technique of said capacitors.

cheers
steve

Steve,

The Apple ecosystem has worked great for me since I started using it exclusively in about 2013. I've been able to call support hundreds of times with questions and they are available seven days a week.

You mentioned termination techniques on caps and I'm hoping you can elaborate a bit on that. Do you mean different solders, solderless or ...?

Some info is directed for newbies to more easily understand my reply to Nick.

With that said, capacitors are usually round in nature. Two conductor plates with insulating
material is wound into a cylinder shape. One lead is to one conductor and the other lead
is connected to the other conductor.

Different ways to connect the lead wire to its respective foil.

1. A lead wire is simply connected to the edge of the foil, at only
one point on the foil.

Important: See fig. A and B. I am talking internally, NOT what you see when looking at
the outside as shown.

    A. When lead wire is connected to one point on the foil, say near the center
of the body's radius, and the other lead wire is connected to the opposite foil,
near the outside edge of the capacitor's body, the sound is usually fuller.

    B. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the center of the capacitor
body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    C. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the outside edge of the
capacitor body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    D. One can vary the distance between connection points adjust the brightness or
fullness of the sound. However, this is still not conducive to optimum accuracy.



2. A lead wire is placed across the edges of the foil. More contact than point 1.
See fig. C

3. A lead wire is centered and metallic spray is sprayed across a portion or all of the
edges of the respective foils. This minimizes the inductance created by rolling the foil.
See fig. D. The thickness and material(s) used will affect the accuracy.

Wish I could be a better artist, but no such fortune.

cheers
steve

Thanks, Steve. Quite interesting information and rather amazing that such slight changes can affect the sound just from an individual part and cumulatively together with other parts.

Nick

[steve]

Hi Nick,

Interestingly, I found that my modified Modi 2 was not found by my
"new" windows 10 pc, but still works with my windows 7 pc.

Fortunately, my recently gotten modi 2 was found by windows 10, so I
exchanged the boards and power supply, and all is ok again. If I had not had the
backup Modi 2, all those caps for nothing.

I see others have had problems with windows 10 not seeing the Modi 2.

By the way, I had a chance to compare my upgraded Modi 2 and it was close
to one of the Denafrips. I will get back with the model, but I believe it was
in the several thousand dollar range.

cheers
steve

Steve,

I used Windows XP and 7 for a long time and both OS were stable and good to use. I have a friend who bought a Windows 8 laptop I believe and gave up figuring out how to use it. I'm content with Apple OS. I am presuming Windows 7 can continue to be used, but there's no longer support for it.

Glad you continue to get very good results with that Modi 2 👍

Nick

I have a friend who really likes the Apple OS. It does sound wonderful.

Yes, going all polypropylene filter caps with DA of 0,02% in the analog
sections of any dac, and preamplifier will improve the performance of
said components to world class.

Another key is finding the correct value ufd, best materials and termination
technique of said capacitors.

cheers
steve

Steve,

The Apple ecosystem has worked great for me since I started using it exclusively in about 2013. I've been able to call support hundreds of times with questions and they are available seven days a week.

You mentioned termination techniques on caps and I'm hoping you can elaborate a bit on that. Do you mean different solders, solderless or ...?

Some info is directed for newbies to more easily understand my reply to Nick.

With that said, capacitors are usually round in nature. Two conductor plates with insulating
material is wound into a cylinder shape. One lead is to one conductor and the other lead
is connected to the other conductor.

Different ways to connect the lead wire to its respective foil.

1. A lead wire is simply connected to the edge of the foil, at only
one point on the foil.

Important: See fig. A and B. I am talking internally, NOT what you see when looking at
the outside as shown.

    A. When lead wire is connected to one point on the foil, say near the center
of the body's radius, and the other lead wire is connected to the opposite foil,
near the outside edge of the capacitor's body, the sound is usually fuller.

    B. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the center of the capacitor
body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    C. When both leads are connected to their foils, near the outside edge of the
capacitor body, the sound is almost always thinner, bright.

    D. One can vary the distance between connection points adjust the brightness or
fullness of the sound. However, this is still not conducive to optimum accuracy.



2. A lead wire is placed across the edges of the foil. More contact than point 1.
See fig. C

3. A lead wire is centered and metallic spray is sprayed across a portion or all of the
edges of the respective foils. This minimizes the inductance created by rolling the foil.
See fig. D. The thickness and material(s) used will affect the accuracy.

Wish I could be a better artist, but no such fortune.

cheers
steve

Thanks, Steve. Quite interesting information and rather amazing that such slight changes can affect the sound just from an individual part and cumulatively together with other parts.

Nick

I had no idea when I started this venture in 1980 that I would find just how sensitive
the ear is. I deal with 1 part in 4 million, really incredible.

Those turns when when winding a capacitor quickly adds inductance, and the thickness of
the foil, the dimensions determine the dc resistance. Doesn't seem like much, but sure
makes a difference as you have found out over the years.

In college I learned that one needs to be able to reproduce 10 times less and above
a rectangular waveform's fundamental frequency to reproduce faithfully. Not a bad rule
of thumb, although 200khz is rather high.

cheers
steve