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ejk:
No. Same tubes. Only new add is the Orchard Audio amp which was purchases after the comment. And still my speakers disappear.

steve:

--- Quote from: ejk on December 27, 2022, 07:46:25 AM ---No. Same tubes. Only new add is the Orchard Audio amp which was purchases after the comment. And still my speakers disappear.

--- End quote ---

Ah, glad. I was just checking as you seemed rather unsure back in Nov with the tubes breaking in.

cheers and all the best.

steve

TopRound‎:
I think a well designed set of speakers setup correctly should disappear.
I remember my Virgo's they were a pain to setup, lots of experimentation, and they ended up where you wouldn't think they should.
But sit in the seat and not only the speakers but the walls disappeared, like putting your head under water, an immersive event.
I like those type of setups, you really can drift away and get up in the music, as you become part of the soundscape

GDHAL:
Blindfold me I'm *any* room playing recorded music via *any* gear. I will walk directly at one of the speakers. 100 out of 100 times.

Now, whether or not speakers *should* disappear is another matter.

Best.

Hal


--- Quote from: TopRound‎ on December 27, 2022, 02:58:15 PM ---I think a well designed set of speakers setup correctly should disappear.
I remember my Virgo's they were a pain to setup, lots of experimentation, and they ended up where you wouldn't think they should.
But sit in the seat and not only the speakers but the walls disappeared, like putting your head under water, an immersive event.
I like those type of setups, you really can drift away and get up in the music, as you become part of the soundscape

--- End quote ---

steve:

--- Quote from: GDHAL on December 27, 2022, 03:14:56 PM ---Blindfold me I'm *any* room playing recorded music via *any* gear. I will walk directly at one of the speakers. 100 out of 100 times.

Now, whether or not speakers *should* disappear is another matter.

Best.

Hal


--- Quote from: TopRound‎ on December 27, 2022, 02:58:15 PM ---I think a well designed set of speakers setup correctly should disappear.
I remember my Virgo's they were a pain to setup, lots of experimentation, and they ended up where you wouldn't think they should.
But sit in the seat and not only the speakers but the walls disappeared, like putting your head under water, an immersive event.
I like those type of setups, you really can drift away and get up in the music, as you become part of the soundscape

--- End quote ---

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I agree Top. As far as finding the speaker I agree, yes, should be able to do that.

1. When dealing with virtually any speaker, the frequency response changes due to
changing dispersion characteristics, and the disappearing act almost always lessens or disappears.

2. Some musical selections, maybe many, tend not to spread completely across the front.
They have depth and width, but although the speaker appears to be not there, the general
direction is, which one can walk to.

3. Another factor is and the loudness changes quite dramatically as one moves closer towards the
speakers, and one speaker will tend to dominate, one is slightly closer to one etc.

4. Another reason is that one usually knows where the walls are, so as one walks closer to one wall,
that side speaker will dominate, loudness takes over.

5. Disappearing relative.

cheers to all, be safe.

steve

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