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Offline Nick B

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #135 on: January 27, 2025, 10:45:44 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #136 on: January 28, 2025, 05:02:00 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

ps. I don't wish to sound arrogant, but I am the only one, that I know of, that actually can test if my amplifier alters
the sonics with a stable load, via proprietary, specialized listening tests. I know of no other designer/manufacturer
who has performed such testing. Specs mean virtually nothing concerning sound quality.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2025, 07:55:55 PM by steve »
Steve Sammet (Owner, Electron Eng, SAS Audio Labs, Ret)
SAS "V" 39pf/m 6N copper ICs,
SAS Test Phono Stage
Acutex 320 STR Mov Iron Cart
SAS 11A Perfect Tube Preamp
SAS 25 W Ref Triode/UL Monoblocks
2 way Floor Standing Test Speakers

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #137 on: January 28, 2025, 07:29:33 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.




Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #138 on: January 28, 2025, 07:46:45 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2025, 05:35:30 AM by steve »
Steve Sammet (Owner, Electron Eng, SAS Audio Labs, Ret)
SAS "V" 39pf/m 6N copper ICs,
SAS Test Phono Stage
Acutex 320 STR Mov Iron Cart
SAS 11A Perfect Tube Preamp
SAS 25 W Ref Triode/UL Monoblocks
2 way Floor Standing Test Speakers

Offline Nick B

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #139 on: January 29, 2025, 10:43:44 AM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.

Thanks, Steve. I an curious how you may have addressed noise if it was a problem for you and if there are budget friendly solutions for those who can't afford expensive AC line noise reduction devices.
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #140 on: January 30, 2025, 04:30:06 AM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.

Thanks, Steve. I an curious how you may have addressed noise if it was a problem for you and if there are budget friendly solutions for those who can't afford expensive AC line noise reduction devices.

Yes, three areas for your first question Nick.

1. I only use metal film resistors as a minimum, with lower noise non-inductive wire wound, and
and even lower noise bulk foil resistors preferred. (Even then, the Mills MRA non inductive
wire wound resistors sound quality is preferred to the Dayton non inductive wire wound resistors.)

2. I only use low rp (tube plate resistance) tubes with greatest figure of merit. (also lowest distortion
and most accurate sounding types).

3. The total preamplifier/amplifier gain of ~31db. The amplifier gain is ~10db while the
line preamplifier has ~21db gain. Even this allows the volume to be set between noon and 3pm.

To answer your second question Nick.

The 11A line preamplifier uses 6 B+ filter stages to eliminate interference etc from the AC
line. I know this is virtually impossible for anyone to accomplish with their existing gear.
My amplifier uses 4 stages for the input stage. 

cheers

steve



« Last Edit: January 30, 2025, 04:44:15 AM by steve »
Steve Sammet (Owner, Electron Eng, SAS Audio Labs, Ret)
SAS "V" 39pf/m 6N copper ICs,
SAS Test Phono Stage
Acutex 320 STR Mov Iron Cart
SAS 11A Perfect Tube Preamp
SAS 25 W Ref Triode/UL Monoblocks
2 way Floor Standing Test Speakers

Offline Nick B

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #141 on: January 31, 2025, 07:47:52 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.

Thanks, Steve. I an curious how you may have addressed noise if it was a problem for you and if there are budget friendly solutions for those who can't afford expensive AC line noise reduction devices.

Yes, three areas for your first question Nick.

1. I only use metal film resistors as a minimum, with lower noise non-inductive wire wound, and
and even lower noise bulk foil resistors preferred. (Even then, the Mills MRA non inductive
wire wound resistors sound quality is preferred to the Dayton non inductive wire wound resistors.)

2. I only use low rp (tube plate resistance) tubes with greatest figure of merit. (also lowest distortion
and most accurate sounding types).

3. The total preamplifier/amplifier gain of ~31db. The amplifier gain is ~10db while the
line preamplifier has ~21db gain. Even this allows the volume to be set between noon and 3pm.

To answer your second question Nick.

The 11A line preamplifier uses 6 B+ filter stages to eliminate interference etc from the AC
line. I know this is virtually impossible for anyone to accomplish with their existing gear.
My amplifier uses 4 stages for the input stage. 

cheers

steve

Thanks, Steve.

Great to get your thoughts on this. I am all solid state right now, but at some point would consider adding a Hattor 6ns7 tube buffer as I enjoy the sound of that tube. Any idea if that tube would be considered low rp?
A more remote possibility in the future would be to add an amp that uses 6ns7 tubes. As I am getting such excellent resolution, I would proceed very carefully to make sure any tube devices would perform very low noise.

Nick

PS   I realize I have really gone off your thread, but this is a small, low volume forum and that's why I have just piggybacked onto your thread. Hope you didn't take offense
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #142 on: February 03, 2025, 08:50:07 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.

Thanks, Steve. I an curious how you may have addressed noise if it was a problem for you and if there are budget friendly solutions for those who can't afford expensive AC line noise reduction devices.

Yes, three areas for your first question Nick.

1. I only use metal film resistors as a minimum, with lower noise non-inductive wire wound, and
and even lower noise bulk foil resistors preferred. (Even then, the Mills MRA non inductive
wire wound resistors sound quality is preferred to the Dayton non inductive wire wound resistors.)

2. I only use low rp (tube plate resistance) tubes with greatest figure of merit. (also lowest distortion
and most accurate sounding types).

3. The total preamplifier/amplifier gain of ~31db. The amplifier gain is ~10db while the
line preamplifier has ~21db gain. Even this allows the volume to be set between noon and 3pm.

To answer your second question Nick.

The 11A line preamplifier uses 6 B+ filter stages to eliminate interference etc from the AC
line. I know this is virtually impossible for anyone to accomplish with their existing gear.
My amplifier uses 4 stages for the input stage. 

cheers

steve

Thanks, Steve.

Great to get your thoughts on this. I am all solid state right now, but at some point would consider adding a Hattor 6ns7 tube buffer as I enjoy the sound of that tube. Any idea if that tube would be considered low rp?
A more remote possibility in the future would be to add an amp that uses 6ns7 tubes. As I am getting such excellent resolution, I would proceed very carefully to make sure any tube devices would perform very low noise.

Nick

PS   I realize I have really gone off your thread, but this is a small, low volume forum and that's why I have just piggybacked onto your thread. Hope you didn't take offense

No offense taken at all Nick.

The only "small" tubes I use from phono thru amplifier are the JJ E88cc tube (6dj8) with an rp of approx 2.7k.
The distortion of this tube is 1/9th, 19db less than any other tube. It is incredibly sonically accurate with
the proper resistors and capacitor values, brands etc. The 6SN7 is medium  rp, 7.5k or so; much much better
than a 12AT7 or 12AX7, with rps of 60k ohms and higher.

With the JJ E88cc, I was able to make my 11A a perfect preamplifier. That means using my ics, there is not a
sonic change of any sort if the 11A is in the audio system or out. Truly transparent. I could not do it with
any other tube, NOS brands, or new.

A 6SN7 could be used, but if possible, make sure the resistors are super quality Mills, Vishay in the
critical front end. Also keep the number of amp stages and gain to a minimum as that puts less "pressure"
on the pre to amp ic in terms of shielding problems, such as RF pickup and hum.

Combining preamp to amp, an integrated amp, poses its own problems with insufficient power supply design,
including filter stages. To design my amps properly, I had to go mono block  because there just was
not enough room for proper design of the power supplies.

I hope this helps.

steve
Steve Sammet (Owner, Electron Eng, SAS Audio Labs, Ret)
SAS "V" 39pf/m 6N copper ICs,
SAS Test Phono Stage
Acutex 320 STR Mov Iron Cart
SAS 11A Perfect Tube Preamp
SAS 25 W Ref Triode/UL Monoblocks
2 way Floor Standing Test Speakers

Offline Nick B

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #143 on: February 05, 2025, 06:04:54 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.

Thanks, Steve. I an curious how you may have addressed noise if it was a problem for you and if there are budget friendly solutions for those who can't afford expensive AC line noise reduction devices.

Yes, three areas for your first question Nick.

1. I only use metal film resistors as a minimum, with lower noise non-inductive wire wound, and
and even lower noise bulk foil resistors preferred. (Even then, the Mills MRA non inductive
wire wound resistors sound quality is preferred to the Dayton non inductive wire wound resistors.)

2. I only use low rp (tube plate resistance) tubes with greatest figure of merit. (also lowest distortion
and most accurate sounding types).

3. The total preamplifier/amplifier gain of ~31db. The amplifier gain is ~10db while the
line preamplifier has ~21db gain. Even this allows the volume to be set between noon and 3pm.

To answer your second question Nick.

The 11A line preamplifier uses 6 B+ filter stages to eliminate interference etc from the AC
line. I know this is virtually impossible for anyone to accomplish with their existing gear.
My amplifier uses 4 stages for the input stage. 

cheers

steve

Thanks, Steve.

Great to get your thoughts on this. I am all solid state right now, but at some point would consider adding a Hattor 6ns7 tube buffer as I enjoy the sound of that tube. Any idea if that tube would be considered low rp?
A more remote possibility in the future would be to add an amp that uses 6ns7 tubes. As I am getting such excellent resolution, I would proceed very carefully to make sure any tube devices would perform very low noise.

Nick

PS   I realize I have really gone off your thread, but this is a small, low volume forum and that's why I have just piggybacked onto your thread. Hope you didn't take offense

No offense taken at all Nick.

The only "small" tubes I use from phono thru amplifier are the JJ E88cc tube (6dj8) with an rp of approx 2.7k.
The distortion of this tube is 1/9th, 19db less than any other tube. It is incredibly sonically accurate with
the proper resistors and capacitor values, brands etc. The 6SN7 is medium  rp, 7.5k or so; much much better
than a 12AT7 or 12AX7, with rps of 60k ohms and higher.

With the JJ E88cc, I was able to make my 11A a perfect preamplifier. That means using my ics, there is not a
sonic change of any sort if the 11A is in the audio system or out. Truly transparent. I could not do it with
any other tube, NOS brands, or new.

A 6SN7 could be used, but if possible, make sure the resistors are super quality Mills, Vishay in the
critical front end. Also keep the number of amp stages and gain to a minimum as that puts less "pressure"
on the pre to amp ic in terms of shielding problems, such as RF pickup and hum.

Combining preamp to amp, an integrated amp, poses its own problems with insufficient power supply design,
including filter stages. To design my amps properly, I had to go mono block  because there just was
not enough room for proper design of the power supplies.

I hope this helps.

steve

Thanks, Steve. Quite interesting. I could not find any specs for the 6ns7 buffer on the Hattor Khozmo website. Based on the quality of the Hattor Big solid state preamp, how excellent it sounds to me and how quiet it is per Dave (he has a different opamp than I do), I would think the tube buffer would be excellent as well. My solid state version uses the very costly AMRG resistors and the pricey New Class D opamp.
The nice thing about owner Arek is he will also build his devices using parts requested by the customer.
I'm not in a hurry....other things have priority
Your mention of the 11A brings back fond memories when I subscribed to Marty's newsletter. Your preamp was his favorite. I miss Marty, and that's been a long time already since he's been gone.
Thanks again for your input.

Nick
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

Offline steve

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #144 on: February 10, 2025, 08:24:38 PM »
After 45 years since starting this venture, off and on designing everything from scratch, the end
appears extremely close.

I have the dac tonally balanced with the last polyprope installed, via teeter/totter with the speaker,
and just ordered the rest of Jenalabs 6N pure all copper wire for the speaker leads. Probably be
necessary to bend the inductor lead to tweak the highs and bend another inductor lead to tweak the
bass.

I have been bypassing the x ohm resistor that balances the woofer to the full range driver (frd) with
various very high ohmage resistors. Will see what value is optimal. Visitors may prefer a different
high value resistor of course.

Cheers

steve

That is exciting to hear, Steve. Nice that you are able to fine tune your system so precisely. I have not used any Jenalads products to date. I do have another Neotech silver/gold IC coming. I do like the sound a bit better than just high purity silver. Also have a Class D amp coming that's similar to my Orchard Starkrimson, but with a different power supply. This is from Spiritual Sound on the east coast and the owner wants me to try his power cord as well. I am happy that I switched dacs to the Holo Cyan2.
As to your dac, I forgot if you stayed with that original Schiit dac or if you got an upgraded version and continued the mods on that one.

Thanks Nick. Going to all polyprope capacitors in the power supplies in the entire system (except HV main amp
supply that is bypassed with polyprope) makes for a real challenge as one can go much deeper into the inner
detail.

Amazing how different materials alter the sonics of a musical signal, but then is real science. Power supplies
affected by power cords, especially in typical amps that have less filtering in the power supply. Sounds like the
same with Class D amps as well. Interesting.

I finally finished the analog power supply capacitors for the Modi 2 with Mundorf EVO in oil types. I suppose
I might get 6" more total width with a Denafrips or Meitner dac, not worried, and even wonder about
distortions created by other dacs analog sections. Afterall, the analog stages in dacs are very cheap versions of preamplifiers, except without the volume controls.

For newbies, this selection might sound weird, but imo really reveals the transparency of Jeannette's voice,
the ambience, and clapping from the audience etc. It is difficult for me to explain, but when the
orchestra starts, the orchestra just seems to get lost in the venues ambience. But in the string "Reference
Top Notch etc", in the "Music Discussion", there are other selections one can also check out. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_uo_3armwE

Cheers and will see how it goes when Jenny's wire comes.

steve

Hi Steve and thanks for that link and continuing to post the particulars. Very enjoyable. I am fascinated by what can be done with sound reproduction and how much it can be improved and fine tuned. Even though I've been an audio enthusiast since the late 80s, it's only the last couple of years where I've experienced truly good sound. And that journey will continue adding the Neotech silver/gold interconnect and the class D amp and power cord that are coming.

I am still not that well versed in acoustics. But my current setup works well in my dual purpose living room. Maybe one day at another house I will be able to have a dedicated listening room. It's a process for me.... getting better equipment, cables etc and then learning what those items can do. Then getting used to the increased resolution, bigger soundstage etc. One thing I focused on the last few years was noise reduction and having Dave's UberBUSS has certainly helped a lot and saved me time and money.

And I hope all the best on your adventure Nick. Noise reduction is a consideration and glad you mentioned it. Noise
(not hum, but hiss) is often caused by an abundance, unneccessary system gain. Manufacturers always seem to
be producing too much gain in each component. Dacs, for instance, use an unnecessary gainstage of 6db (which
only doubles the signal from 1 volt rms out to 2 volts out) when the preamp and amp already has too much gain
to begin with. (R2R dacs need a buffer stage, an exception.) 

Concerning noise, some tubes and resistors are known causes.
 
I am so glad to hear of your success Nick.

cheers

steve

ps. I added a ps to my last post for those who missed it.

Thanks, Steve. I an curious how you may have addressed noise if it was a problem for you and if there are budget friendly solutions for those who can't afford expensive AC line noise reduction devices.

Yes, three areas for your first question Nick.

1. I only use metal film resistors as a minimum, with lower noise non-inductive wire wound, and
and even lower noise bulk foil resistors preferred. (Even then, the Mills MRA non inductive
wire wound resistors sound quality is preferred to the Dayton non inductive wire wound resistors.)

2. I only use low rp (tube plate resistance) tubes with greatest figure of merit. (also lowest distortion
and most accurate sounding types).

3. The total preamplifier/amplifier gain of ~31db. The amplifier gain is ~10db while the
line preamplifier has ~21db gain. Even this allows the volume to be set between noon and 3pm.

To answer your second question Nick.

The 11A line preamplifier uses 6 B+ filter stages to eliminate interference etc from the AC
line. I know this is virtually impossible for anyone to accomplish with their existing gear.
My amplifier uses 4 stages for the input stage. 

cheers

steve

Thanks, Steve.

Great to get your thoughts on this. I am all solid state right now, but at some point would consider adding a Hattor 6ns7 tube buffer as I enjoy the sound of that tube. Any idea if that tube would be considered low rp?
A more remote possibility in the future would be to add an amp that uses 6ns7 tubes. As I am getting such excellent resolution, I would proceed very carefully to make sure any tube devices would perform very low noise.

Nick

PS   I realize I have really gone off your thread, but this is a small, low volume forum and that's why I have just piggybacked onto your thread. Hope you didn't take offense

No offense taken at all Nick.

The only "small" tubes I use from phono thru amplifier are the JJ E88cc tube (6dj8) with an rp of approx 2.7k.
The distortion of this tube is 1/9th, 19db less than any other tube. It is incredibly sonically accurate with
the proper resistors and capacitor values, brands etc. The 6SN7 is medium  rp, 7.5k or so; much much better
than a 12AT7 or 12AX7, with rps of 60k ohms and higher.

With the JJ E88cc, I was able to make my 11A a perfect preamplifier. That means using my ics, there is not a
sonic change of any sort if the 11A is in the audio system or out. Truly transparent. I could not do it with
any other tube, NOS brands, or new.

A 6SN7 could be used, but if possible, make sure the resistors are super quality Mills, Vishay in the
critical front end. Also keep the number of amp stages and gain to a minimum as that puts less "pressure"
on the pre to amp ic in terms of shielding problems, such as RF pickup and hum.

Combining preamp to amp, an integrated amp, poses its own problems with insufficient power supply design,
including filter stages. To design my amps properly, I had to go mono block  because there just was
not enough room for proper design of the power supplies.

I hope this helps.

steve

Thanks, Steve. Quite interesting. I could not find any specs for the 6ns7 buffer on the Hattor Khozmo website. Based on the quality of the Hattor Big solid state preamp, how excellent it sounds to me and how quiet it is per Dave (he has a different opamp than I do), I would think the tube buffer would be excellent as well. My solid state version uses the very costly AMRG resistors and the pricey New Class D opamp.
The nice thing about owner Arek is he will also build his devices using parts requested by the customer.
I'm not in a hurry....other things have priority
Your mention of the 11A brings back fond memories when I subscribed to Marty's newsletter. Your preamp was his favorite. I miss Marty, and that's been a long time already since he's been gone.
Thanks again for your input.

Nick

I miss Marty as well. I miss the conversations and would have loved to have him here to
experience the conclusion of my system. It seems the last piece makes the most sonic
difference as the masking is being removed.

I started when I was 30 years old, and now finishing with all Jenalabs 6N (99.9999% pure)
copper speaker wire. I cannot believe the believability, and the wire, connections have only
a couple of hours on them. Solder connections takes some hours and I always wait overnight.

Glad to finish up, as I fell backward on the ice last thur and struck the concrete with the
back of my skull. I could move my legs a little, but from the shoulders down no feeling, just an
overwhelming tingling from my shoulders on down.

I came out of it after a few minutes. Interestingly, my friend and I was traveling to the
hospital to see his wife who is a patient. CAT scan found no problems, except severe
narrowing in C6/7 region I got from being rear ended in 1991. Lit contained concussion
material. That was a close call.

Enough of the diatribe.

steve




« Last Edit: February 10, 2025, 08:29:00 PM by steve »
Steve Sammet (Owner, Electron Eng, SAS Audio Labs, Ret)
SAS "V" 39pf/m 6N copper ICs,
SAS Test Phono Stage
Acutex 320 STR Mov Iron Cart
SAS 11A Perfect Tube Preamp
SAS 25 W Ref Triode/UL Monoblocks
2 way Floor Standing Test Speakers

Offline Nick B

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Re: I think my System is virtually finished
« Reply #145 on: February 11, 2025, 08:26:02 PM »
Steve,

A great audio system just brings magic into my home. I started getting interested in higher end audio at about age 25. It's been well worth pursuing and I'm quite grateful that things sound as good as they do now. I am using the Hagerman burn in device right now to put hours on the latest Neotech silver/gold IC using silver AECO RCAs. Am hoping for more improvement within the soundstage and a better holographic presentation as well.

It sure would have been interesting if Marty were still with us. His thinking was innovative and he auditioned lots of interesting and boutique products.

That was a heck of a fall and you are very fortunate it was not more serious and that you're doing much better. Years ago, I was skiing, crossed my tips and fell forward onto my neck. Had a tingle and slight burning in the neck for a second and then it disappeared. I don't ski recklessly and dodged a bullet that day.

Nick
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS