Quote from: P.I. on Today at 10:53:11 AMI set up the room in the following manner:

Divide the length of the room into sevenths

Divide the width of the room by fifths

Place speakers at intersection points, trying different locations until the best one is found.

Tweak toe-in and final placement

Multiple subwoofers with a pair in the back anti-phase at very low volume

  Left out crawling on the floor to find best bass

charles

Are separate components really worth it ? Over the years it was never questioned just told separates are better. Especially dual mono everything. We know power supplies are the heart of any component. However is it wise to have several different ones? Lots of magnetic fields, grounding, etc.
Why not just keep it simple with an integrated. Less Cables, cords, rack space. As you know we carry Qualiton by Audio Hungary. I have compared their integrated Amps to their separates. To be honest no difference in sound, stage or noise. Actually a bit quieter.
As a Dealer separates make me money. However we push integrated. We would rather see your dollars go to a better front end or speakers. Any thoughts ?

charles

  If you want to channel the vibrations from your component to a shelf or plinth below check these out. Amazon 4x2x1. $27 for 6. Very affective.

charles

I set up the room in the following manner:

Divide the length of the room into sevenths

Divide the width of the room by fifths

Place speakers at intersection points, trying different locations until the best one is found.

Tweak toe-in and final placement

Multiple subwoofers with a pair in the back anti-phase at very low volume

Under shelves and platforms.

charles

Years ago ASC Tube Trap recommended to place your sub off the floor. 22% of room height. Well buckaroos works extremely well. I use Rythmic Subs. Two. Not placed in corner. Set up in line with front of main speakers on the inside,about 8' apart.  Sounds terrific.
When you set them up use one sub to dial it in.

charles

Quote from: BobM on Today at 05:39:15 AM

Quote from: toobluvr on January 18, 2026, 01:46:34 PMI've gotten spoiled by subs.   Can't listen without them.   Even on my full range floorstanders.
Two is better.  Helps with subtle spatial cues and dimensionality.

Definitely 2 is better than 1. Also, the traditional placement method of sticking them in a corner is wrong, to my ears. Pull them away from the wall and get them up off the ground a bit. You will have to turn them up some, but they sound faster and cleaner that way.

Exactly how I set them up!   

Quote from: toobluvr on January 18, 2026, 01:46:34 PMI've gotten spoiled by subs.   Can't listen without them.   Even on my full range floorstanders.
Two is better.  Helps with subtle spatial cues and dimensionality.

Definitely 2 is better than 1. Also, the traditional placement method of sticking them in a corner is wrong, to my ears. Pull them away from the wall and get them up off the ground a bit. You will have to turn them up some, but they sound faster and cleaner that way.

Quote from: toobluvr on January 18, 2026, 01:46:34 PMI've gotten spoiled by subs.   Can't listen without them.   Even on my full range floorstanders.
Two is better.  Helps with subtle spatial cues and dimensionality.

Absolutely.  Placement of them to deal with room modes is essential for great sound.  You can't just park them and expect miracles.  When properly deployed subs make music seem more effortless.

I've gotten spoiled by subs.   Can't listen without them.   Even on my full range floorstanders.
Two is better.  Helps with subtle spatial cues and dimensionality.