Well either the 24 th or 31st depending on when my amps are ready. Right now thw 31st appears to be best as the transformers are going out this week from China. Hopefully all will be OK for the 24th. which Iam pushing for.
If weather permits we will set up Maggie 3As outside against the rear wall of the house. Omega speakers for the flea powered amps in another room. The Pipedreams in the main system. Bring amps CDPs and DACs or whatever you like. An Italian feast will be prepared by me. Please RSVP for either or both dates, so we can work it out.
charles
Count me in.
I could bring a 26 tube preamp if you like?
and beer and wine of course.
Mike
Sir Charles,
Count me in... I could bring my world famous Fresh Mozzarella with tomatoes & basil from my garden along with my secret blasamic dressing...
Mangia,
Pete
Well I've got prior family comitments on the 24th, so the 31st is better for me, and I'd love to attend.
Right now either day works for me but will confirm with the boss tomorrow.
I'll have to decide when you set the date.
We're in Boston on the 31st looking at colleges. The 24th is better for me.
Hey Rollo. Looking forward to attending your rave. Please keep us informed as to which date you decided to go with. At the moment the 24th or 31st are free.
Hey Charles,
I could bring along my Atma-Sphere OTL if you think that would be a good idea and don't mind another visitor. Plinius maybe? Metric Halo DAC? Not sure if any of that fits the bill.
I'm fighting a pretty annoying head cold right now but either of those dates sound good, health permitting.
Regards,
Greg
Quote from: Regg on June 26, 2010, 10:22:02 AM
Hey Charles,
I could bring along my Atma-Sphere OTL if you think that would be a good idea and don't mind another visitor. Plinius maybe? Metric Halo DAC? Not sure if any of that fits the bill.
I'm fighting a pretty annoying head cold right now but either of those dates sound good, health permitting.
Regards,
Greg
Great. Bring em all.
charles
Quote from: Levi on June 25, 2010, 05:53:30 AM
Hey Rollo. Looking forward to attending your rave. Please keep us informed as to which date you decided to go with. At the moment the 24th or 31st are free.
+1 ......thanks Charles.... :thumb:
Hi Charles,
It looks like I have a cycling event on 24th and won't be able to come.
Thanks for the invite. :thumb:
--Levi
Charles,
Maybe I could bring an Airtight ATM-1?
36 watts and Tamura iron might like the pipedreams
Mike
You guys are torturing us who can't make it! I almost had 31st cleared. Maybe next time. You're gonna have a good time!
Charles,
How goes the amp saga? Any idea yet if this is going to go down on the 24th or the 31st?
Tom
It's the 24th
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=82690.msg805592#msg805592
July Rave July 24th from 12PM til whenever. RSVP please. Bring the beer food is taken care of.
charles
I have to be at work by 6, so I can just come for a while in the the afternoon. Looking forward to putting faces to some of these screen names.
Tom
I'll be sure to find you and say "Hi" Tom.
Hey, you gonna show us your new scar? :lmc:
aaaaaaaaagggghhhhhhh , No NYrave on A/C . I had 48hrs of glory again. Ok I think we need to solicit some manufactures over to this site and get A/N rolling.
Quote from: BobM on July 13, 2010, 09:40:22 AM
I'll be sure to find you and say "Hi" Tom.
Hey, you gonna show us your new scar? :lmc:
I'll show you mine if you show me yours...... 8-[
Quote from: evan1 on July 13, 2010, 05:05:52 PM
aaaaaaaaagggghhhhhhh , No NYrave on A/C . I had 48hrs of glory again. Ok I think we need to solicit some manufactures over to this site and get A/N rolling.
So did you get a full ban again, or did you just get banned for the NYAR forum, because I can use it :-k
P.S. I'd be happy to facilitate a Gallo Acoustics forum, I've got a pretty good line on what they've got going on ;)
Lets keep this thread focused on the the July Rave.
If you want to discuss justice, anarchy or the past, present or future of AC or AN, please use the "in case you need..." thread or start a new one.
thanks
Robert
Quote from: Packfill on July 13, 2010, 07:45:49 PM
Lets keep this thread focused on the the July Rave.
If you want to discuss justice, anarchy or the past, present or future of AC or AN, please use the "in case you need..." thread or start a new one.
thanks
Robert
I agree... BTW, AC SUCKS!
heh! :rofl:
I'm in 100%, need an address to add to my GPS.
Quote from: rollo on July 13, 2010, 06:54:33 AM
July Rave July 24th from 12PM til whenever. RSVP please. Bring the beer food is taken care of.
charles
Quote from: etcarroll on July 18, 2010, 03:14:40 PM
I'm in 100%, need an address to add to my GPS.
Quote from: rollo on July 13, 2010, 06:54:33 AM
July Rave July 24th from 12PM til whenever. RSVP please. Bring the beer food is taken care of.
charles
I'm in Whitestone queens. 24-31 169th. St. Whitestone NY, 11357
See ya Saturday. Starts a 12PM.
charles
Quote from: rollo on July 19, 2010, 05:26:08 AM
Quote from: etcarroll on July 18, 2010, 03:14:40 PM
I'm in 100%, need an address to add to my GPS.
Quote from: rollo on July 13, 2010, 06:54:33 AM
July Rave July 24th from 12PM til whenever. RSVP please. Bring the beer food is taken care of.
charles
I'm in Whitestone queens. 24-31 169th. St. Whitestone NY, 11357
See ya Saturday. Starts a 12PM.
charles
Charles
I won't be able to make it. I am doing a double on Saturday due to the heat coming.
Quote from: evan1 on July 22, 2010, 12:44:10 PM
Charles
I won't be able to make it. I am doing a double on Saturday due to the heat coming.
Cool, just make sure you divert a smooth 240v and some extra current over to Charles' house ;)
Spoke to soon, just got tasked with some design work that needs to be done by Monday, so I'll have to beg off.
It's gonna be too hot to drive 2.5 hours 1 way anyway................
Gene
Quote from: etcarroll on July 18, 2010, 03:14:40 PM
I'm in 100%, need an address to add to my GPS.
Quote from: rollo on July 13, 2010, 06:54:33 AM
July Rave July 24th from 12PM til whenever. RSVP please. Bring the beer food is taken care of.
charles
Meeting is POSTPHONED . Weather forcast is not good Severe thunderstorms and 100 degrees. Cannot cook without the barbie.
Besides many cancellations due to weather. rain date either July 31st. or Aug 7the. Will keep all posted. It appears many cannot make the 31st either. We shall see. We will have this Rave.
charles
Well that makes my life easier, I was going through contortions trying to wrangle out of prior family obligations for tomorrow. Look forward to easily attending your re-scheduled event!
I'm good for the 31st, but out of town on the 7th.
Tom
7th is my only choice - we'll be away on the 31st
I'm glad I checked the forum for this LAST MINUTE change, otherwise we'd be knocking on your door Charles.
BTW the weather is for scattered T storms late afternoon today and tonight (and I have a 1:30 tee off today). Tomorrow says partly sunny - not rain? :?: :wtf:
Quote from: BobM on July 23, 2010, 08:07:23 AM
7th is my only choice - we'll be away on the 31st
I'm glad I checked the forum for this LAST MINUTE change, otherwise we'd be knocking on your door Charles.
na you would have gotten a call. I had to wait until the final weather forcast as I mentioned previously. BTW do you have the emailist for the Ravers ? if so could you pot a message ? Thanks
charles
Call Levi about a call list, he may have something - or you can post to everyone via the Yahoo group, which is probably the most thorough way to reach everyone.
Levi has already communicated the news to the yahoo group via email ;)
Boy, I have a lot of fresh mozarella, tomatoes & basil to get rid of....
Also, cucumber salad!!!!
Bring it to my house !!
I fart on the AC.
Quote from: rollo on July 23, 2010, 05:56:46 AM
Meeting is POSTPHONED . Weather forcast is not good Severe thunderstorms and 100 degrees. Cannot cook without the barbie.
Besides many cancellations due to weather. rain date either July 31st. or Aug 7the. Will keep all posted. It appears many cannot make the 31st either. We shall see. We will have this Rave.
charles
Any official decision yet on whether it will be the 31st or the 7th? (The current forecast for the 31st calls for a high of only 82 with just a 10% chance of rain, no long term forecast yet for the 7th)
Any chance of getting the Alan Maher thingies in by the 7th?
Quote from: Triode Pete on July 23, 2010, 05:09:21 PM
Boy, I have a lot of fresh mozarella, tomatoes & basil to get rid of....
Also, cucumber salad!!!!
Sorry man, I really had no choice. Besides your competition over at Con Ed gave me 105 volts.
charles
You guys ROCK!
Quote from: rollo on July 28, 2010, 05:44:20 AM
Quote from: Triode Pete on July 23, 2010, 05:09:21 PM
Boy, I have a lot of fresh mozarella, tomatoes & basil to get rid of....
Also, cucumber salad!!!!
Sorry man, I really had no choice. Besides your competition over at Con Ed gave me 105 volts.
charles
I'm getting that right now myself
Quote from: evan1 on July 28, 2010, 12:26:37 PM
Quote from: rollo on July 28, 2010, 05:44:20 AM
Quote from: Triode Pete on July 23, 2010, 05:09:21 PM
Boy, I have a lot of fresh mozarella, tomatoes & basil to get rid of....
Also, cucumber salad!!!!
Sorry man, I really had no choice. Besides your competition over at Con Ed gave me 105 volts.
charles
I'm getting that right now myself
And will probably getting it for the rest of the summer (or at least until this heat breaks). Electric generating capacity in the NY Metro area is really being pushed to the limit and every time LIPA or Con Ed tries to build a new plant all of the "not in my backyarders" throw a fit and block the construction. And until somebody gets enough backbone to say that the overall public welfare outweighs the protests of the small special interest groups we are going to have to put up with voltage reductions every time it gets hot and demand starts to spike. (and it will only get worse as some of the older plants start to break down and we are faced with a situation where not only will we need to build more capacity to serve increasing demand, but we will also have to build new plants to replace some of our existing generating capacity as well.)
Our nuke makes 123 volts 24/7/365 :thumb: It's 12 miles away, so I can see the cooling tower plume on cold mornings... :shock:
QuoteAnd will probably getting it for the rest of the summer (or at least until this heat breaks). Electric generating capacity in the NY Metro area is really being pushed to the limit and every time LIPA or Con Ed tries to build a new plant all of the "not in my backyarders" throw a fit and block the construction. And until somebody gets enough backbone to say that the overall public welfare outweighs the protests of the small special interest groups we are going to have to put up with voltage reductions every time it gets hot and demand starts to spike. (and it will only get worse as some of the older plants start to break down and we are faced with a situation where not only will we need to build more capacity to serve increasing demand, but we will also have to build new plants to replace some of our existing generating capacity as well.)
You think it's bad now.... :rofl:
Just wait till folks start plugging in their "electric" cars....can you say -
BLACKOUT.... :duh
Quote from: richidoo on July 28, 2010, 07:28:20 PM
Our nuke makes 123 volts 24/7/365 :thumb: It's 12 miles away, so I can see the cooling tower plume on cold mornings... :shock:
I guess you can bask in the glow of more than just your tubes. :lol:
Well iit is this Saturday. hopefully the weather will cooporate this time.
charles
So far the forecast looks real nice, sunny, in the id 80s, with 0% chance of rain.
http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/11357
This one I can make
Quote from: tmazz on August 02, 2010, 05:27:44 AM
So far the forecast looks real nice, sunny, in the id 80s, with 0% chance of rain.
http://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/11357
The Maggie 3As will be providing the music outdoors. BRING SS AMPS.
charles
Will your 211's be running the main system, or something else (per your post in the Tubes forum)?
Lets ROCK & puke!!!!!!!
Cuz puking is way cool.
That's no way to compliment Charlie's excellent cooking Mike [-( :pop :bbq
Quote from: Deton Nation on August 03, 2010, 01:53:16 PM
Lets ROCK & puke!!!!!!!
Cuz puking is way cool.
I will prepare the puking dish of all times. BRYSTON on a plate. :rofl:
charles
Quote from: BobM on August 03, 2010, 08:09:53 AM
Will your 211's be running the main system, or something else (per your post in the Tubes forum)?
NO. An AR classic 60 and whatever the boys bring along.
charles
lol!!!! Should be a fun rave!
:)
Quote from: rollo on August 04, 2010, 06:49:55 AM
Quote from: Deton Nation on August 03, 2010, 01:53:16 PM
Lets ROCK & puke!!!!!!!
Cuz puking is way cool.
I will prepare the puking dish of all times. BRYSTON on a plate. :rofl:
charles
You know that would get you banned elsewhere. Long live AN!!!
I'll bring my Stasis. Anything else I should bring?
I was thinking you should bring me, but something came up on Sat.
Getting Rave withdrawal...
-Mike
Bringing modded Lector, Air Tight AT1 for Pipedreams and a Tango choke loaded 26/101D preamp,
should be fun...as usual.
Mike
Quote from: Barry (NJ) on August 04, 2010, 09:42:05 AM
I'll bring my Stasis. Anything else I should bring?
Cool Barry. Beer or wine.
charles
Quote from: rollo on August 05, 2010, 07:18:16 AM
Cool Barry. Beer or wine.
charles
Well I figured that, I was thinking audio related ;)
Quote from: Barry (NJ) on August 05, 2010, 08:29:47 AM
Quote from: rollo on August 05, 2010, 07:18:16 AM
Cool Barry. Beer or wine.
charles
Well I figured that, I was thinking audio related ;)
Bring whatever you would like to give a listen to. thanks.
charles
Charles-
Thanks for a great time- the food was fabulous. An even BIGGER thank you to Joann- she was in constant motion keeping it all together.
The exposure to all the different equipment outside was a revelation. I never thought the Maggies could do outside duty like that- boy was I wrong...
The rave was great! Thanks so much to the hosts, Charles and Joan for having us over and providing such great food and drink.
The music was really nice and much to my surprise the system set up outside was better that I thought possible. The Maggies are a true champ speaker and when paired with the Plinius Sa-100 amp, and Charles tube preamp the sound was so nice.
Paul
Thanks Charles and Joanne for hosting the July rave.
Great weather and great food and drink, the limonata was great!
I think this was the first out door rave. The Maggies sounded really great outside.
I thought the Plinius and Wienser, Lector combo was the best.
We also had fun with power cords which made a big difference , even outdoors!
The enchanter power cord was my favorite, it just synergized with the system really well.
Sorry we blew the fuses on the AR 60 :duh
But honestly the real fun was outside, it was just too beautiful to be inside.
Thanks!
Mike
Best Rave yet!!! Thanks for hosting Charles. You have a great house and a generous family!!!! I absolutely loved the outdoor sound, maybe the best Ive heard, besides my own system of course ;) Queens is a great town! The food was awesome too. I think you covered all the bases!!! Thanks so much for a wonderful rave!!!
Mike C
What a great rave. It was worth the wait. The food was delicioso and the Maggie's sounded amazing outdoors. Who would have thought? The Pipedreams need your 211's to sing. I may have been one of the only people to hear the little system upstairs, which sounded pretty good for a single driver system. what was that little amp powering them?
Thanks Charles and Joanne for throwing such a great party and being wonderful hosts.
Bob
Thanks Charles and Joanne for hosting the July/Aug. Rave......
....................................an Italian feast for sure...excellent food!!! :beer:
As others have mentioned, I think it's a first for the Rave......
...................an outdoor setup...and it sounded very good. 8)
And it was a beautiful day as well.... :thumb:
Nice to see some of the Audio Syndrome members attending....and the Ravers.
I listened to the two systems...missed the third one.....
...............amazing that you got those PipeDreams in the basement...with just a few inches to spare... :lol:
Sounded good down there....but you need to sit back a little further to get the full effect.
I did notice that with some CDR's, the Lector CDP skipped a bit or two.... :?
Outside the Maggies did a fine job....who'd a thought. :thumb:
It was just like an outdoor concert....airy,music floating throughout the yard...enjoyable.
A very nice experience. :D
Thanks again for hosting.....I had a great time.... :beer:
Chris
PS.....Hey Barry....where are the photos ?
A very big thanks to Charles and Joanne for their wonderful hospitality and the fabulous feast they provided.
I spent 95% of the day outside enjoying the open-air performance provided by the Maggies driven by the fabulous Plinius SA-100 MkIII.
Sorry for the delay Chris, yesterday was my daughter's birthday and it was back to work today so I just haven't had time to upload pix until now...
Typical Rave tom-foolery...
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=483)
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=488)
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=485)
The main system in the basement listening room...
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=489)
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=484)
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=486)
The backyard system...
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=490)
The proper libation for the event...
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=487)
Why don't the pictures show up? There in a gallery here at AN :-k
http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?action=mgallery;sa=album;id=66
You have to drill down into the picture and get the Direct Link shown at the bottom of the page. The link from properties doesn't work (like it does at AC)
This is a cool shot 8)
(http://www.audionervosa.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=487)
Love those pipedreams Charles!
Thanks Rich, figured it out and fixed it ;)
Thanks Barry. A great day, it was a pleasure meeting you. BTW guys the Classic 60 is OK. It was just the fuses that blew. :duh Audiophiles are dangerous.
charles
Quote from: rollo on August 10, 2010, 07:06:19 AM
Thanks Barry. A great day, it was a pleasure meeting you. BTW guys the Classic 60 is OK. It was just the fuses that blew. :duh Audiophiles are dangerous.
charles
As are untested preamp designs [-o< :-k
They should be tested on man nipples before going to actual amps... ;)
Quote from: Deton Nation on August 10, 2010, 08:20:35 AM
They should be tested on man nipples before going to actual amps... ;)
:thumb: Agreed!!!! Just not mine.
charles
Superkock 2 is now ready for prime time, sorry for this hiccup.
Perhaps I will do a little listen session at my house with the new 26 tube pre so others can hear what DHT tubes can do. And we can hear what I/V transformers can do to DACs! Now that the Sowters are in place.
It can be a game changer. These DIY guys are onto something other than just changin caps.
MIke
So whats a superkock ? Is that like an Italian sausage ? Are ya ready for a throwdown ? I'm willing to drive out to NJ.
charles
Quote from: topround on August 10, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
And we can hear what I/V transformers can do to DACs! Now that the Sowters are in place.
It can be a game changer. These DIY guys are onto something other than just changin caps.
:drool:
Superkock is our name for Karl's preamp designs. The first Superkock is owned by Joe in Katonah, a WE 417 tube chole loaded preamp. Superkock 2 is the 2nd version which is a Tango choke loaded 26 tube preamp. Unfortunatley the power supply had a problem, he has removed the tube rectified power supply and installed a solid state power supply, which eliminated the hum. He has a 26 tube preamp that is Black Art transformer coupled with a huge power supply of 4 oil filled chokes in copper chassis's. The very large tube rectified power supply has enough filtration to eliminate the hum but the smaller tube version did not. Working with a 26 tube is not easy, many give up, I would too, but I heard what a 26 tube can do, and brother there ain't anything like it in the preamp world.
As far as I am concerned.
I am picking up the supercock 2 and his own superdac with the Sowter I/V's in place, tonite, to install in my system. Let's just say that a normally reserved man was very, very, emotional and excited over the phone regarding the I/V's. They may change the game. He actually took out the tube section of his dac. The trans have enough juice to drive the dac chips withou the tubes. I never heard him so excited, So naturally I am excited and gotta hear it as well. I have a pair of the I/V's for my Lector, which may be next in line for another mod.
Regarding throwdown? No throwdowns, I like having little listening sessions where we get to hear, experience and learn what these things do. Sometimes when you are mining for copper you hit gold!
Many times it is the opposite, it makes it worse, but what the hell it is fun trying. And you really do learn. It is so much better than just reading about this stuff.
BTW I am building a cryogenic chamber for us. So if we need anything cryo'd, it will be easily and readily available soon.
Mike
Next up is a transformer coupled DHT tubed hybrid solid state amp, just for fun!!
I love this hobby!
Mike
Just take the hotdogs out of the freezer first before cryoing.
Sounds like you are having a blast on your little journey. Can't wait to hear it.
Mike, can you tell me what DAC chip is in your DAC? I want to compare its specs to my ESS DAC chip. Mine requires very low load impedance to stay in current mode, hard to do with a tranny. But I suspect an easier load in voltage mode will sound good too, maybe 120dB s/n instead of 135... blablabla
You are running DAC chip > Sowters> output jacks, right?
Rich,
The dac is my friends that he built in an old copper chassis from audio note.
It uses 4 philips "crown" chips tda 1541a. No caps in the signal path. It had tube rectification and ran WE 417 tubes, but he pulled them out and replaced them with the sowters. Plenty o gain for this chipset.
My initial impression:
Extremely clean and refined, female voices are beautiful.
Great tone
Lots of air, great focus and soundstage
I think I would like a litlle more midrange weight, we may put tubes back in.
The sowters have maybe 20 to 30 minutes on them so they need time to burn in, I will run it for a few days on repeat to see what happens. I have not played with power cords yet, that could change lots of things...unfortunatley :D
will keep you updated
Mike
Mike
1541, I think that is what was in my Altmann DAC... nice NOS sound. But I imagine it sounds even better without Altmann's 2 stage opamp output. With 4 chips you should have plenty of current for the tranny and ICs. Did ya get the pre too? Maybe it will plump the singers boobs a little.
Rich,
I have the 26 tube in my system. One of the 26 tubes went bad and both of them are very microphonic. He used a cheap teflon tube socket which may have been cheap as its virtue. We are looking at a better teflon solution as well as using larger electrolytics for the power supply.
His large 26 tube pre is a 2 chhassis behemoth, and adresses mostly all the hum issues simply by being overdesigned. This smaller single chassis pre is an attempt to do a scaled down trimmed down version at a much more affordable price. There is a learning curve with this 26 tube. But once done right the 26 tube is glorious.
Mike
Oh a "26" tube. I thought you said there were 26 tubes in the preamp. I was picturing you sweating profusely in your listening puddle.
Im sure its going to sound great. Will there me a nipple clamp output for my listening pleasure! ;)
I know it's blasphemy, but since Karl is already going to hell for putting sand in your tube pre, what about regulators? Paul Hynes makes some nice ones. His shunt reg specs are incredible - PSRR is 110dB, Zout 2mOhms! Noise .5nV, settling 50nS.
(http://www.paulhynesdesign.com/img3.jpg)(http://www.paulhynesdesign.com/img4.jpg)
I think you could use only one for shared (stereo) B+, it's fast enough to make 20mA for two 26s without crosstalk. It's 5uS between samples at 192kHz, this reg settles 100 times faster! You're probably sharing B+ now anyway? Then another one for both heaters. Byebye hum. The low impedance will allow the tube play as strong as it possibly can, bass impact, etc.
If Karl needs a specific voltage on B+ then you might need to buy a new transformer, but you can ditch the big storage and chokes. If you can donate 10V to the regulator then you can use the PS you already have. 2 regs + current sources about $450. They run hot so they need some air, or heatsink if you reduce the voltage very far below input, but you won't have that problem. They can probably bolt to the bottom of your case, if you have the room... http://www.paulhynesdesign.com/
Then Karl can light up the heaters in a dummy big bottle rectifier tube on top as a disguise.... :thumb:
can you image a pre with 26 tubes! Maybe a OTL pre!