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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: Black Sand Cable on March 30, 2007, 02:58:20 PM

Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: Black Sand Cable on March 30, 2007, 02:58:20 PM
Some of you may know this already but a few months back I ordered a set of HT8's and an HT2C from Al at RAW Acoustics. I ordered every upgrade he offered.

http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=36422.0

Anyway, I just found out that they are now complete and will be shipping to me first thing on Monday! After I spend some time with them I will post a review but be warned, I'm not a writer and my reviews are short and to the point!  :D This is the first ribbon tweeter system I will have owned so I honestly have no idea what to expect. I bought from RAW for two reasons. First is that Al is a great guy who I have dealt with in the past and also the fact that everyone and anyone who has heard the HT8's has had very positive things to say about them. We will see as my current Monitor Audio Gold Signature stuff is IMO very good in it's own right.

Some things to note to date that I think are worth mentioning. Al from RAW has been in touch me with every step of the way. We had some veneer problems that added to the build time that were outside of his control but he took the time to let me know regardless. If customer service is important in your buying decision, have no fears of Al not being there if you need something. Phone, email whatever, he has been there to answer my questions as the build went along. Hat's off to Al for what has been to date, excellent customer service! If his speakers are half as good as his customer service, I'm a happy camper!

http://www.rawacoustics.com/item__HT8_Speakers,773.html

http://www.rawacoustics.com/item__HT2C_Center_Channel,766.html
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: richidoo on March 30, 2007, 03:16:04 PM
They look beautiful! Congrats. There are a few ribbon lovers here, so you are in good company. My Legacys have ribbon only 8k and up. SOunds nice  8)  I'm sure you will love it. If you are a golden ear, which I imagine you are considering your products, you will be notice deficiency in any non ribbon speaker you ever try hear again, even big bucks Be tweeters. They don't project as well in space and on paper, I'm told   :-k , but the sound is more natural and realistic, IMO

Looking forward to your review! I'm not familiar with RAW>
Later
Rich
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: Mike L on March 30, 2007, 07:35:35 PM
I am interested in your take on these as well.  I recently just finished the Exodus 2641 kit from DIY Cable.  They use the same drivers except for the ribbon tweeter (mine are an Usher soft dome).  

To me the Exodus just aren't very emotionally involving for music playback.  Even though they have very good off-axis response they still sound very small to me in comparison to my Polk Lsi15's.  This is probably due to the MTM upper half of my Polk's.  They don't give that big, relaxed sound that is probably my biggest priority in a speaker and something I am looking to improve.  However, for home theatre they are very good with those extremis drivers, a very clear midrange (would make an awesome center) and have a very black background.  

Just my take.

Mike
Title: HT8's Up Close
Post by: Black Sand Cable on April 02, 2007, 09:56:50 AM
Denny from Custom Concepts (www.customconcepts.ca) who did all my cabinets just sent me the first picture I have seen of my completed HT8's.

I'm biased but DAM they look nice if you ask me!  :D

(http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/2929/bsca1pr4.jpg) (http://blacksandcable.com)
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: miklorsmith on April 02, 2007, 10:03:49 AM
Smokin'!  Man, waiting for new stuff is a b!tch ain't it?
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: Black Sand Cable on April 02, 2007, 10:06:46 AM
Quote from: miklorsmithSmokin'!  Man, waiting for new stuff is a b!tch ain't it?

Without a doubt, YES it is!  :D
Title: More Pictures
Post by: Black Sand Cable on April 02, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
Both Denny from CC and Al from RAW out did themselves!

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5021/assem1144nu8.jpg) (http://blacksandcable.com)

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4397/assem1056jp2.jpg) (http://blacksandcable.com)
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: richidoo on April 02, 2007, 01:48:15 PM
Jeepers, those just might be the prettiest speakers I have ever seen. The veneer wrapped around the radiused edge is just awesome. They put even those very nice Salks down a notch in furniture appeal. More "of a piece."  I bet with that driver combo they will sound gorgeous too! Now all you need is a big bushy fern to go on top of each and you will have your own little forest the listening room!

I hope you live near NC, some of us are gonna want to hear those!
Rich
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: Carlman on April 02, 2007, 02:25:06 PM
He's in Canada... so not too close to us, Rich... :(
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: RAW on April 02, 2007, 02:28:11 PM
Well finally got aprroved and now a member.

Yes John is going to be a little surprized at the over all quality of the finished HT8's as well as his matching HT2C center channel.

We had the veneer custom sheeted for us as we do for all of our custom orders like John.The veneer takes time to get the finished slices you want layed up on backing.With custom veneers this allows people to order what they want not just a few select veneer options (if it is real wood veneer, not a photo impression product)We use real wood veneers with all the exotics made for us on each order we produce.

Over all John ordered his at the end of January and they are in Freight now as we speak.
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: miklorsmith on April 02, 2007, 02:42:18 PM
Are there any of these in Seattle?
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: RAW on April 02, 2007, 02:44:48 PM
Nope, but just 2hrs north come on in for a visit.
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: miklorsmith on April 02, 2007, 02:47:52 PM
Geez, Surrey, piece of cake!

Will you be at RMAF this year?
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: RAW on April 02, 2007, 03:02:17 PM
Yes just a drive across the line, 10 minutes from customs.
RMAF
You never know :wink:
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: Mike L on April 02, 2007, 04:17:43 PM
I would love to hear those as well.  I just completed the Exodus 2641 kit (uses same woofers and mids) and they sound very nice but they just sound too small/short for my tastes.  The MTM upper would have really topped them off IMO.

That is a beautiful veneer, as well as an outstanding job in aligning it so that the grain looks symmetrical and the same.

Mike
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: richidoo on April 02, 2007, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: RAWWell finally got aprroved and now a member.

Welcome to AudioNervosa, Al! Glad to have you on board.  Congratulations on the great design.

Rich
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: RAW on April 02, 2007, 07:52:00 PM
QuoteI would love to hear those as well. I just completed the Exodus 2641 kit (uses same woofers and mids) and they sound very nice but they just sound too small/short for my tastes. The MTM upper would have really topped them off IMO.

That is a beautiful veneer, as well as an outstanding job in aligning it so that the grain looks symmetrical and the same.

Mike

Mike
Yes people refer to the 2 models but really different.
The HT8 uses a non square MTM area which loads the mids differently as well as the woofers act like a ported TL.
Then add in the ribbon compared to the Usher.

And yes I like the MTM over the twin with the single MT.Ovr all a stronger balance to the mids in the MTM.


QuoteWelcome to AudioNervosa, Al! Glad to have you on board. Congratulations on the great design.

Rich

Thanks Rich.
Sleak look is in :D
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: lonewolfny42 on April 02, 2007, 08:31:37 PM
John....They look great !!! Looks like you'll have a good time listening....nice.
Denny's done a great job on the veneer....same with AL, he makes some very good speakers. Good luck !!! :beer:

   Chris
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: RAW on April 03, 2007, 07:06:46 PM
Thanks Chris.
We feel with the addition of Denny making cabinets we can speed up some production times due to demand on our smaller HT3's we have the shop loaded most of the time.
Title: We have delivery!
Post by: Black Sand Cable on April 05, 2007, 04:59:01 PM
This is the way all speakers should be shipped!

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3940/p4050421bv6.jpg) (http://blacksandcable.com)
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: lonewolfny42 on April 05, 2007, 08:35:14 PM
QuoteThis is the way all speakers should be shipped!

Yep.....shipping can really take a toll if not packed correctly.
Looks like the fun should be starting soon....enjoy !! :beer:
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: miklorsmith on April 06, 2007, 07:41:17 AM
My new preamp showed up in a plywood shipping crate, it's the first piece I've received that way.  It seems you're receiving something out of Raiders of the Lost Ark, like something really, truly precious lives inside.  It's a great feeling.

I look forward to hearing about these beauties!
Title: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: TomS on April 06, 2007, 08:26:06 AM
Quote from: miklorsmithMy new preamp showed up in a plywood shipping crate, it's the first piece I've received that way.  It seems you're receiving something out of Raiders of the Lost Ark, like something really, truly precious lives inside.  It's a great feeling.

I look forward to hearing about these beauties!
My Resolution Audio Opus 21 also came in a little 14x14x14 wood crate with gray foam lining and a hinged lid.  Very nice and not terribly costly.  Tom
Title: Re: RAW Acoustics HT8 & HT2C
Post by: RAW on June 10, 2007, 10:08:21 AM
Well John has been a little loaded with the HT8 plus he added a center channel our HT2C.

So happy he just ordered the HT3 as surrounds, yes in Rosewood to match the other 3.
Will be interesting to see these in the finished room. along with his new Mac's.