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Electro Stimulation Ward => Signals and Noise => Topic started by: Emil on October 17, 2011, 10:28:19 AM

Title: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Emil on October 17, 2011, 10:28:19 AM
So, I just bought a pair of Maggie 3.6s and since I'm in the mood to spend mo' money, I'm thinking if the maggies deserve better than My Audio Cables aka MACs
Please tell me that they don't.
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: lonewolfny42 on October 17, 2011, 10:49:13 AM
QuoteI just bought a pair of Maggie 3.6s...

Congrats Emil.... :thumb:

.....so...when's your Rave... :rofl:

Quote..I'm in the mood to spend mo' money..

Good....you'll be helping out the economy... 8)

QuoteI'm thinking if the maggies deserve better than My Audio Cables aka MACs...

Maybe....

Can you borrow other brands from your friends....to try.

Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Emil on October 17, 2011, 12:20:46 PM
Chris
Sometime next month

Maybe a cable shootout?
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Face on October 17, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
Check out Wireworld interconnects.
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Carlman on October 17, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
I would get used to what you have now first.  Position the speakers, get the logistics worked out, tweak what you have, etc... Get used to it.  THEN move into finding the right cables that bring out what you like/want in your new system.

Just my opinion..
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Emil on October 18, 2011, 07:41:01 AM
Quote from: Carlman on October 17, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
I would get used to what you have now first.  Position the speakers, get the logistics worked out, tweak what you have, etc... Get used to it.  THEN move into finding the right cables that bring out what you like/want in your new system.

Just my opinion..

That makes too much sense. i could never do that :)
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: rollo on October 18, 2011, 09:31:13 AM
Quote from: Carlman on October 17, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
I would get used to what you have now first.  Position the speakers, get the logistics worked out, tweak what you have, etc... Get used to it.  THEN move into finding the right cables that bring out what you like/want in your new system.

Just my opinion..

  A good opinion it is. Maggies require time to set up right. Tweeters on the inside or outside. Distance apart, distance from rear wall and finally toe in. it can be frustrating unless you have an experienced Maggie setup guy.
  I owned mine for years thought they were perfectly setup. One day Scott Markwell Harry Pearson former setup man came over for dinner. when we went down to listen after a few minutes he said " can I move the speakers around" Well he did and the result shocked me.
  I can offer the same advice now so if you like I can come over and help. Cabling is the final touch as well as the resistor for the tweeter and separating the crossover from the speaker. Using the proper gauge speaker cables will as well add to the mix. Then room treatment. Maggies love a dead rear wall with diffusion at the rear and side walls.
  Anyway good luck with your purchase, ENJOY!!!!!

charles
SMA


Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Carlman on October 18, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
It's not just Maggies, it's 'speakers' that take a while to get setup. Just when you think you're done, you wonder if there isn't a little too much bass resonance.  Or is the imaging right? Toe-in? Etc.
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: tmazz on October 19, 2011, 10:35:49 AM
Quote from: Carlman on October 18, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
It's not just Maggies, it's 'speakers' that take a while to get setup. Just when you think you're done, you wonder if there isn't a little too much bass resonance.  Or is the imaging right? Toe-in? Etc.

Carl,

While I agree with you that all speakers will benefit from a careful set-up, I know where Rollo is coming from. In my experience, in addition to just not sounding their best, Maggies can get downright cranky if you don't place them exactly where they want to go.
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: BobM on October 19, 2011, 10:39:33 AM
and then re-position them, and then tweak them again, and again, and again, and then have some friends come over and move them once more or so, and then come back the next day and re-measure and re-tweak them again ... etc.

... until you finally decide they sound pretty good, sit back with a nice beer or two, get up to go to the bathroom and bump into one panel moving it off it's perfect pinppoint position and have to start all over again.

Just sayin'

Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: tmazz on October 19, 2011, 10:42:31 AM
Quote from: BobM on October 19, 2011, 10:39:33 AM
and then re-position them, and then tweak them again, and again, and again, and then have some friends come over and move them once more or so, and then come back the next day and re-measure and re-tweak them again ... etc.

... until you finally decide they sound pretty good, sit back with a nice beer or two, get up to go to the bathroom and bump into one panel moving it off it's perfect pinppoint position and have to start all over again.

Just sayin'



...or just be sure get up before you've had so many beers that you mistake the Maggies for the bathroom door.  :rofl: :beer:
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: rollo on October 20, 2011, 08:12:20 AM
Quote from: BobM on October 19, 2011, 10:39:33 AM
and then re-position them, and then tweak them again, and again, and again, and then have some friends come over and move them once more or so, and then come back the next day and re-measure and re-tweak them again ... etc.

... until you finally decide they sound pretty good, sit back with a nice beer or two, get up to go to the bathroom and bump into one panel moving it off it's perfect pinppoint position and have to start all over again.

Just sayin'



   Oh you Apogee guys  :rofl:. I agree unless one knows how to properly set them up.  :thumb:


charles
SMA


Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: goldlizsts on October 20, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: Carlman on October 17, 2011, 04:27:08 PM
I would get used to what you have now first.  Position the speakers, get the logistics worked out, tweak what you have, etc... Get used to it.  THEN move into finding the right cables that bring out what you like/want in your new system.

Just my opinion..

The Maggies have to ALSO settle/break in first, won't they?  So, the recommendation seems reasonable.  Well.... Emil's in the mood to get everything new :lol: (can't blame him!)..... Get all done soon :thumb:, so when the rave comes next month, our ears really will be perked up! :beer:
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: sleepyguy24 on April 04, 2012, 09:41:24 AM
Hi Emil

sorry to bump an older thread but I was looking through stuff in the forum. Did you ever replace your MAC cables? If so what did you replace it with? What are your thoughts on both sets of cables?

The reason I'm asking is I currently have MAC Velvet cables but was thinking about trying DH Labs BL-1 Series II cables made with Switchcraft ends to replace them. I'm not experiencing any problems with the MAC cables. I just got curious about the DH Labs cables because of discussions I had with other audio enthusiasts.

Thanks
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: BobM on April 04, 2012, 02:02:55 PM
I tried some DH Labs power cords some time ago. Very dark sounding IMO.

You may want to ping Triode Pete about his power cords. Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: topround on April 04, 2012, 04:43:22 PM
Agreed! I had Pete make me a pair for the Musical Fidelity Titans I am using in the 20 amp IEC version and they are great!
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: sleepyguy24 on April 05, 2012, 05:16:44 PM
Thanks for the heads up. I've spoken to people about the DH Labs Power cords too. One guy who had Furutech power cords leveled with me in his systems the DH Labs Power cords performed just as good as the Furutech power cords. I want to give the DH Labs power cords a shot but I can't justify them yet. A couple of months ago I made power cords from Belden 83803 wire that I'm happy with. I think I'm just lazy from working with those rigid 83803 power cords.
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: Carlman on April 06, 2012, 05:30:55 AM
I still have some 83803 power cords... Really good for the money.  I also made some IC's with Belden wire, 8422 with DH Labs connectors.  They are pretty good as well.  I would put them in the same category as other bargain cables like Kimber PBJ, Reality, Grover, etc.  But to make them was $40 at the most.  If you can find a cheap, good connector, the cost goes way down... I can never find 'good' and 'cheap' though. :(
-C
Title: Re: Replace my MACs?
Post by: rollo on April 08, 2012, 08:28:19 AM
  Ok back to cables. Maggies do not like Silver cables. just too much for the tweeter in the thin dept. Copper based cables preferably on the rich side works very well with Maggies. Tara, JPS or Synergenic are a good place to start. As far as Powercords Triode wire Labs and for digital PIAudio  or JPS powercord. If you use a digital IC JPS.
   Have fun trying.


charles