Does anyone remember the good ole days of the rave?
The rave was the best thing to happen to this hobby other than audio shows.
Great, gracious people opening their homes up, entertaining people for the pure joy of enjoying our hobby and each others company.
Sure we drank a lot and ate a lot but we had fun and we were all friends.
Then one day a few of us decided to get into the audio business and it all fell apart from there.
I know these words annoy the people reading it, but it is true, we were all in it for the hobby, to learn and experience, profit was not part of it.
Once you are in the business it all changes, you have to support your products, objectivity gets wiped away, the fun disappears, and we all can no longer gather to gain knowledge and experience. At least the way it used to be free and open. Now we have to be careful not to offend anyones products. True friends are able to call each other assholes, and say their system sucks and still eat their food and drink their wine.
I remember the first day it hit me was when we where at Barry's house for a mini rave, I thought it was a mini rave but really it was designed to introduce the new Merill amps to the club offering deep discounts to us.
That day changed it all for me, I knew it was over.
It was so much fun..........but alas those days are over except when we gather in small groups privately with no dealers, but the large scale fun is gone.
What happened to Lonewolf leaning on speakers with beer in hand.
What happened to Buddy with his DIY projects and female singers
what happened to Levi a great host with a big heart and a big camera!
What happened to Phil , gracious host, great cook, and great guy
What happened to ed with red hair
what happened to all those empty beer and wine bottles?
you guys fill in the rest I am sure I forgot so many people
remember Marc withthe bald head...great guy
remember the ampfest at Phils house? a room filled with amps, remember his Blue Circle amp the size of a small fridge?
God so many great times
anyone else have any memories?
Dont forget Mr. Blue Towel
Yes Mike it wss over for me also when the same products showed up st everyones Rave
...and the Satfrat Award! :thumb:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m81/satfrat/theSatfratAward.jpg?t=1270318916)
and here was a thread about a Rave I gave in March 2009.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=64533.0
16 pages of BSing and pictures and the usual smoke blowing up the hosts ass on how gracious he was and just how good his system sounded :lol:
Quote from: ejk on October 19, 2015, 02:38:56 PM
Dont forget Mr. Blue Towel
Sure we remember. What is he up to these days? :lol:
Quote from: topround on October 19, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
Does anyone remember the good ole days of the rave?
They got archived. :-({|=
yeah ...all good things come to an end...it is evolution!
but then another good thing come along.................... :thumb:
Yeah, it blew up from 2 things, IMO
- too many people attending and nobody crazy enough to host that crowd (except you Mike, and Phil)
- too many manufacturers claiming rights to take over the system with their new component, or set up a second system to show it off
And don't forget that cleanup afterwards, and the pacification of the SO because of the crazy mess left behind.
Those were the days.. So much fun!! It was about the people.... so many characters aka freaks.. Good times.
Reunion time
Quote from: ejk on October 20, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Reunion time
Damn good thought. 'Nuf said by all!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, I hosted one last November but only 5 or so people showed up. No manufacturers, no salesmen invited, only you guys, my stuff and Putz's turntable.
Maybe folks just don't like Raves anymore...
PS: we still had fun. And I've since built more stuff including a 32bit, DHT output DAC.
Oh, I forgot, Carl showed up with his DIY DAC, too. In fact that inspired me to build mine!
So a productive, if sparsely attended, Rave.
We did have a good time at Max's, although the VPI is a bitch to travel with and set up. A Crosley would have been much more convenient.
So many of us have great systems that there's really no need for people to bring their gear to demo/market to attendees (unless they are specifically invited to do so). There's always something better out there. We should just enjoy the sponsor's system has and be eternally grateful for him hosting.
Let's remember that half the fun is the eating, drinking, conversation and reconnecting with old friends.
We also need to make an effort to attend. Many of the most recent raves were either cancelled or sparsely attended because everyone had a reason to not show up.
No reason we can't do large scale again like the "good old days". If no one else steps up maybe I will.
Quote from: Maxamillion on October 24, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
Well, I hosted one last November but only 5 or so people showed up. No manufacturers, no salesmen invited, only you guys, my stuff and Putz's turntable.
Maybe folks just don't like Raves anymore...
PS: we still had fun. And I've since built more stuff including a 32bit, DHT output DAC.
It's probably true that fewer and fewer people are into "real" high fidelity. It's so obvious, as we see sooooo many just wear those crappy-looking ear pieces, playing through their cellphones. At one times, we thought MP3 files werern't that good. But, those files have improved, I thought. Still, mostly is that people don't want to dedicate too much space for a turntable (it's on the comeback trail though, go figure!), a full-sized DAC, separate amps.... and 2 monstrous boxes..... That's my simplistic thought!
I still enjoy good music presented the old way. I'm ready for a rave anytime, seeing old faces and new. But.... even Topround has forsaken us.... so..... that's the trend?????? :duh LOL.
Unfortunately dead as the proverbial door nail. Too bad it once was a really cool event. Thans to Levi, Barry and Phil and Hogg as course. Yes Bottomround I mean Topround too. :rofl: :rofl:
Oh well time marches on.
charles
Thanks guys for remembering the good old days of the NY Audio Rave. :thumb:
Although we cannot bring back the past, the future surely looks bright.
:thumb: I wish everyone Happy Holidays and a Great New Year 2016! :thumb: :pop
Quote from: Levi on December 22, 2015, 08:10:06 AM
Thanks guys for remembering the good old days of the NY Audio Rave. :thumb:
Although we cannot bring back the past, the future surely looks bright.
:thumb: I wish everyone Happy Holidays and a Great New Year 2016! :thumb: :pop
Levi we never forget the good guys like you. Still into audio or has Bike riding taken over ?
charles
Thanks Charles. :thumb:
I am still into audio. Cycling is my new passion. It keeps me fit and healthy. I can ride my roadbike from Queens to Bear Mountain and back. 125miles and 6,000+ feet of climbing in less than 6hrs. :rofl:
--Levi
Quote from: Levi on December 23, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Thanks Charles. :thumb:
I am still into audio. Cycling is my new passion. It keeps me fit and healthy. I can ride my roadbike from Queens to Bear Mountain and back. 125miles and 6,000+ feet of climbing in less than 6hrs. :rofl:
--Levi
Levi,
That's exhausting just reading about it. :rofl:
Rob
Quote from: rpf on December 23, 2015, 08:28:43 AM
Quote from: Levi on December 23, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Thanks Charles. :thumb:
I am still into audio. Cycling is my new passion. It keeps me fit and healthy. I can ride my roadbike from Queens to Bear Mountain and back. 125miles and 6,000+ feet of climbing in less than 6hrs. :rofl:
--Levi
Levi,
That's exhausting just reading about it. :rofl:
Rob
:rofl:
Yes Rob. You are correct. It is extremely exhausting.
My muscles ache as I write this. :thumb:
Better you than me.... :roll:
Quote from: Levi on December 23, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Thanks Charles. :thumb:
I am still into audio. Cycling is my new passion. It keeps me fit and healthy. I can ride my roadbike from Queens to Bear Mountain and back. 125miles and 6,000+ feet of climbing in less than 6hrs. :rofl:
--Levi
Hi Levi, it's been awhile and you ain't getting any younger (says this senior citizen). :duh Google Maps says it's a 6+ hour cycle to Bear Mtn 1-way. You're not pulling an Armstrong here are you? :rofl:
Cheers,
Robin
Quote from: Levi on December 23, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Thanks Charles. :thumb:
I am still into audio. Cycling is my new passion. It keeps me fit and healthy. I can ride my roadbike from Queens to Bear Mountain and back. 125miles and 6,000+ feet of climbing in less than 6hrs. :rofl:
--Levi
Happy New year, guys!!!!! Haven't cruised here in a while, and now you guys are talking biking only? Levi, Queens to Bear Mountain is 6K ft. rise? C'mon..... don't pull my leg (LOL). I am planning to do the railroad from W. China into Tibet, and that's some real climb, the highest railroad stop in the world. Bear Mountain? We ain't afraid of bears (LOL again)!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
If you are going to Bear Mountain this info may come in handy:
(http://i.imgur.com/Y9kMz.jpg)
And be careful on the golf course.......
(http://www.footjoy.com/community/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/22/3733.golf_5F00_course_5F00_problem.jpg)
Quote from: goldlizsts on December 30, 2015, 04:20:12 AM
Quote from: Levi on December 23, 2015, 07:34:41 AM
Thanks Charles. :thumb:
I am still into audio. Cycling is my new passion. It keeps me fit and healthy. I can ride my roadbike from Queens to Bear Mountain and back. 125miles and 6,000+ feet of climbing in less than 6hrs. :rofl:
--Levi
Happy New year, guys!!!!! Haven't cruised here in a while, and now you guys are talking biking only? Levi, Queens to Bear Mountain is 6K ft. rise? C'mon..... don't pull my leg (LOL). I am planning to do the railroad from W. China into Tibet, and that's some real climb, the highest railroad stop in the world. Bear Mountain? We ain't afraid of bears (LOL again)!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Incidentally, Levi, Bear Mountain is only 1,300 ft. "tall", how did you come up with 6K ft. climbing? You mean you went back and forth 3-4 times? :rofl:
Footnote: If you come across a bear, best perhaps is to lay on the floor, play dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Then, the bears around here are mostly black bears; they're not that lethal (vs. Grizzlies). Just don't run into mama bear with babies. That'd be more lethal than any other bear! :thumb:
Footnote 2: Did you see the new DiCaprio movie (what's the name?), oh, Revenant..... The bear attack is very "fake", mind you. It wasn't a real bear; that you must know. You'd immediately recognize that it was a fake grizzly attacking poor Leonard.
elevation gain is calculated by how many feet you climb. In hiking you may ascend 800 feet then drop down 600 feet then up again another 1200 feet then down again. Adding up all the up feet determines total elevation gain.
We did a hike that was 23 miles long and 6500 feet in elevation gain. There are no mountains around here that are 6500 tall. Ups and downs,,lots of them...make the 6500 feet, which is considerable......
and that ride Levi described is very difficult..........so Kudos :thumb: