Can't say I've tried many but the ones I did try did nothing.
Is my electricity clean or maybe I just cant hear.
I do have a dedicated 15 amp line so maybe that helps.
I'm using all TWL cables. One plugged directly into the wall feeding a PS audio juice bar
I don't use one. Danny Richie brought one of Dave's early ones by years ago, and I couldn't hear a difference (Danny could). But much of my stuff is run on batteries. I live in the country, and I'm the only one on my transformer. ... and I don't hear anything above 5KHz
I use Dave's UberBUSS and, for me, it's a must have product. I live in a city of 80,000 and 180,000 in the county and there's lots of noise on the power lines. My hearing is quite good.
None here- I plug the integrated directly into the wall, and use this for everything else- it has no fuse, circuit breaker, light or switch. https://www.basilaudio.com/products/nana-wiremold-l10320-power-strip/
It's also overpriced, but relatively speaking in the audio world, I won't complain.
I use Shunyata PC's on my equipment, FWIW.
I tried a power conditioner once, but the conditioner itself emitted a high pitched sound that I could not abide. I was told I most likely have DC on the line causing the whine. Truthfully I never pursued it to see if that was the case. It seems fine as is, though I do unplug and freak during thunderstorms.
well, obviously am. Stripping the noise that you don't think is riding on your power is essential to great sonics. It is like washng the windows and then taking the glass out entirely between you and the music.
We get 'used to' listening through the grunge thinking it is normal. With total return on my products of ~ 0.3%, my customers obviously found the same thing.
NOISE SUCKS!
I've been with and without and that's why Dave's got so much of my hard earned cash.
Don
Quote from: dflee on April 20, 2022, 05:59:12 PM
I've been with and without and that's why Dave's got so much of my hard earned cash.
Don
Thanks, Don. The kudos are greatly appreciated!
You learned 😁
No Uberbuss for me, mostly because of a lack of rack space (seeing as how my system is now in the living room I have to keep it contained and looking tidy). But I do have to say they the Digibuss did wonders for my digital front end. Definitely one of those things that you will not get away from me without prying it from my cold dead hands. :thumb:
Emil you are close enough to me that we could set up a play date if you want to hear what mine would sound like in your system.
I use one for everything but my main L&R channel amplifiers. My system sounds more dynamic when the amps are plugged directly into the wall, a dedicated 15 amp circuit with a single unbroken run of 12 gauge all the way to the main box. My main reason for the conditioner is that I need the extra outlets, I have 8 various components plugged into my "conditioner". I do feel it's nice, that when there is a power outage, the unit does not return power to the components until I reactivate it, so there is no bouncing on and off during the cycles the power company sometimes goes through when they bring power back up...
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We have found the best solution for power. Use several dedicated lines. One for digital two for amps and one for analog. Condition each line. Expensive yes. Worth it yes IOHO.
charles
Does anyone know if PI Audio will be producing the Buss again ? Dave ?
Quote from: ejk on May 08, 2022, 05:53:55 AM
Does anyone know if PI Audio will be producing the Buss again ? Dave ?
I'm taking up the slack serving AN members until the new company gets up to speed. It is taking a while due to conflicting schedules, but will happen soon..
Check your PM...
I have a budget Emotiva CMX with filters in it. Aside from providing me an extra outlet to plug my gear into, it did absolutely nothing to make the sound better.
I started with Dave's DigiBuss for the front end and computers and worked my way to a MiniBuss. BOTH of these are not going anywhere. Without these, the sound becomes homogenized, loses detail and dynamics.
Quote from: P.I. on April 20, 2022, 05:16:22 PMwell, obviously am. Stripping the noise that you don't think is riding on your power is essential to great sonics. It is like washng the windows and then taking the glass out entirely between you and the music.
We get 'used to' listening through the grunge thinking it is normal. With total return on my products of ~ 0.3%, my customers obviously found the same thing.
NOISE SUCKS!
Exactly Dave. Usig yours for my Server and USB Clock. A Gigawatt for preamp and Amp and the digibuss for Transport and DAC. Each with its own dedicated line off a sub panel. OH MY !!!! Dead quiet.
charles
Since Dave is retired and the UberBUSS is no longer being made, a good alternative might also be this. A reasonable price and great quality from Vinshine and Kinki.
https://www.vinshine.audio/product-page/kinki-studio-x-vinshine-audio-tai-hang
Once Kinki is able to fill all the back and pre-orders and Alvin has them back in stock to sell it will be interesting to see what the actual "landed" price in the US really is. Don't expect it to be near the prices listed on the website. The iFi Powerstation is also another effective and reasonably priced unit.
Quote from: Jack on April 21, 2025, 06:12:16 PMOnce Kinki is able to fill all the back and pre-orders and Alvin has them back in stock to sell it will be interesting to see what the actual "landed" price in the US really is. Don't expect it to be near the prices listed on the website. The iFi Powerstation is also another effective and reasonably priced unit.
Thanks for that. I have had good performance for very reasonable prices from iFi and the Powerstation is only $749
https://www.silentpower.tech/collections/power-conditioners/products/powerstation
Quote from: Nick B on April 21, 2025, 12:17:14 PMSince Dave is retired and the UberBUSS is no longer being made, a good alternative might also be this. A reasonable price and great quality from Vinshine and Kinki.
https://www.vinshine.audio/product-page/kinki-studio-x-vinshine-audio-tai-hang
I watched 2 reviews on this product Huff and IIWI,they both made opposite claims Huff claims not made for amps amd IIWI says you can use on amps. No real need for it as I use the Puritan Labs.
Sometimes it works and is necessary, other times not so much, and still other times it can suck the dynamics out of your system. If you don;t need it or don;t hear a difference then consider yourself lucky.
We use one or two UberBUSSes at every audio show with superb results.
In my main rig at home, I use an UberBUSS and a DigiBUSS with similar fantastic results! On my second system, I employ on UberBUSS for my amplifier power supplies and for my "old school" SACD player & BP DAC...
What's fantastic with the UberBUSS, is that it does NOT limit current, which in-turn does not limit DYNAMICS!
Great product, Dave!
Cheers,
Pete
Proper noise reduction via the UberBUSS, the iFi LAN iSilencer and iPurifier and recently an ultra low noise lps from China for the modem and router have made a huge improvement in my system.
Everything except the lps for the modem and router is plugged in an UberBUSS fed by Pete's Digital American II power cord. I have an outlet or two still open on the UberBUSS, but am a little concerned about "polluting" it with additional noise. It would also take a bit of rearranging to plug that dual output lps into the UberBUSS. Occasionally, I see one of Dave's devices available on the used market. Is the DigiBUSS a better unit for devices like a modem and router?
Quote from: Nick B on April 22, 2025, 07:18:16 PMProper noise reduction via the UberBUSS, the iFi LAN iSilencer and iPurifier and recently an ultra low noise lps from China for the modem and router have made a huge improvement in my system.
Everything except the lps for the modem and router is plugged in an UberBUSS fed by Pete's Digital American II power cord. I have an outlet or two still open on the UberBUSS, but am a little concerned about "polluting" it with additional noise. It would also take a bit of rearranging to plug that dual output lps into the UberBUSS. Occasionally, I see one of Dave's devices available on the used market. Is the DigiBUSS a better unit for devices like a modem and router?
I designed the Digi as a personal solution to all of the SMPS we had for "devices". It is basically a "brick wall" filter and does use inductors. They are nanocrystalline devices made by 1 company in the world. The inductor rating is 25A @ 250VAC with an incredibly low DCR.
Where is the listing? I can tell you more about it due to the fact I made a lot of custom versions.
Quote from: P.I. on April 23, 2025, 07:41:00 PMQuote from: Nick B on April 22, 2025, 07:18:16 PMProper noise reduction via the UberBUSS, the iFi LAN iSilencer and iPurifier and recently an ultra low noise lps from China for the modem and router have made a huge improvement in my system.
Everything except the lps for the modem and router is plugged in an UberBUSS fed by Pete's Digital American II power cord. I have an outlet or two still open on the UberBUSS, but am a little concerned about "polluting" it with additional noise. It would also take a bit of rearranging to plug that dual output lps into the UberBUSS. Occasionally, I see one of Dave's devices available on the used market. Is the DigiBUSS a better unit for devices like a modem and router?
I designed the Digi as a personal solution to all of the SMPS we had for "devices". It is basically a "brick wall" filter and does use inductors. They are nanocrystalline devices made by 1 company in the world. The inductor rating is 25A @ 250VAC with an incredibly low DCR.
Where is the listing? I can tell you more about it due to the fact I made a lot of custom versions.
I should have been more clear. Nothing for sale right now per HiFi Shark. I was just wondering, if I found a Digi, if it would be a better option to plug in my new low noise lps into the Digi rather than the Uber that you made me. Am trying to squeeze max performance out of my current system....and it sounds really m really nice already 😊
Quote from: Nick B on April 23, 2025, 08:00:34 PMQuote from: P.I. on April 23, 2025, 07:41:00 PMQuote from: Nick B on April 22, 2025, 07:18:16 PMProper noise reduction via the UberBUSS, the iFi LAN iSilencer and iPurifier and recently an ultra low noise lps from China for the modem and router have made a huge improvement in my system.
Everything except the lps for the modem and router is plugged in an UberBUSS fed by Pete's Digital American II power cord. I have an outlet or two still open on the UberBUSS, but am a little concerned about "polluting" it with additional noise. It would also take a bit of rearranging to plug that dual output lps into the UberBUSS. Occasionally, I see one of Dave's devices available on the used market. Is the DigiBUSS a better unit for devices like a modem and router?
I designed the Digi as a personal solution to all of the SMPS we had for "devices". It is basically a "brick wall" filter and does use inductors. They are nanocrystalline devices made by 1 company in the world. The inductor rating is 25A @ 250VAC with an incredibly low DCR.
Where is the listing? I can tell you more about it due to the fact I made a lot of custom versions.
I should have been more clear. Nothing for sale right now per HiFi Shark. I was just wondering, if I found a Digi, if it would be a better option to plug in my new low noise lps into the Digi rather than the Uber that you made me. Am trying to squeeze max performance out of my current system....and it sounds really m really nice already 😊
We'll talk...