Review/Dealer Ad: Quantum AC filter gets rid of electrical noise

[AlanMaher]

It should....

[mdconnelly]

Alan, I seem to recall a discussion here or on AC (but can't seem to find it ) that indicated that if your filters are removed from the circuit or if power is turned off for an extended time, then it would once again take awhile to 'readjust' the circuit. 

Can you expand on that a bit?  I'm curious what happens when you remove it from the circuit, and how long it takes to re-achieve results when returned to the circuit (or power is restored).   

Any insight is appreciated.  Thanks!

[AlanMaher]

It has nothing to do with our products, what you are describing is called magnetic flux and it is caused by every item plugged into the electrical service.  Flux is created by power supply leakage on the neutral, transformer inductance, interaction between in-wall hot, neutral, and earth conductors, power supply harmonic interactions, etc.  These interactions cause the inductance of the circuit to collapse creating a period of indifference between the in-wall inductance, capacitance, and resistance levels.  Our filters will cause the balance of the circuit to go haywire while the multistage filter conditions and stabilizes.  Once stabilized the circuit will no longer change during different times of day because the filter is in complete control of the harmonic balance of the circuit.  The sound quality will remain the same no matter if it is 10pm or 10am. 

Flux is unavoidable.

[mdconnelly]

... The sound quality will remain the same no matter if it is 10pm or 10am. 

Now that would be amazing... I live in an older section of Durham, NC - power lines all above ground - and there are times when my system sounds awesome (typically but not always late at night), and other times I just have to turn off the music.  If your filters can overcome that alone, I'll be very impressed.   I've heard similar claims with respect to power regeneration systems but they all have their own sets of baggage.

[AlanMaher]

....regeneration                 

[AlanMaher]

Brand new Infinity SC review: http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=69874.0

[rollo]

In all my years of fooling with power conditioners never has one piece improved EVERY parameter in my system.
charles 

That is one heck of a bold statement! What other power conditioners have you tried and which of those have you directly compared to this gizmo you have now?

  Yes it is. No need to do direct comparisons. I know my system like the back of my hand. The Infinity made a wonderfull change for the good.
  the true test is when I took it out. The soundstage collapsed, bass was not as focused and the sound was a bit thinner. Good enough for me.  At$25 for this thing IMO there are no competitors at this price level.
Now other conditioners were; Richard Grey, PS Audio regeneration,Furman, Furatech, Hydra, powerwedge, Monster and Mapleshade.



charles

[rollo]

Well I have an extra piece of ERS paper lying around unused, so I taped it inside my circuit breaker panel over the audio fuses and the main breaker fuse. Guess what? The lights dimmed, the clouds parted and a solitary beam of heavenly light chose to align itself with my audio rig. It was miraculous. An epiphany. Then the dog started barking, the light dimmed and it started to rain again.     

But seriously, I had it lying around and I used it per Alan's instructions. The sound of my rig changes every time I listen due to power fluctuations and the time of day. But what the heck, if it makes a subtle improvement that I can't readily detect at least it will be an improvement. I'm sure it won't hurt anything because the theory makes sense to me. I'm not sure I could remember the subtle differences from one day to the next anyway, let alone a 21 day period.

Bob so what would be so hard to remember. When installed it sounded like crap now better than ever before. My system as you know is extremely revealing. The Pipedreams tell all. So not so hard to hear changes. The true test was removing the filter. Its not magic, flooby dust or any of the other BS. It is IMO the REAL DEAL. Right up your alley with pricing.
  You know Bob I remember when you were getting into this hobby and the talk of ICs, speaker cables and POWERCORDS made NO difference. Now that you have experienced the difference your a believer. I still remember you busting our chops over cabling. Its just a matter of time before one comes around.


charles

[BobM]

  You know Bob I remember when you were getting into this hobby and the talk of ICs, speaker cables and POWERCORDS made NO difference. Now that you have experienced the difference your a believer. I still remember you busting our chops over cabling. Its just a matter of time before one comes around.
charles

I think you may have me confused with someone else. I'm the one that experimented with so many different styles and types of cable and said they all made a difference. I never said this filter didn't make a difference. I don't have any of Alan's conditioners so I can't make any judgement on them. I just said I had some ERS paper lying around ... so I used it per Alan's instructions. Charles - I am the ultimate experimentor. There's damn near nothing in my system that I haven't played with (and improved for the most part).

Sure, I could pull it out (or actually just open the fusebox door that it is glued to) and see if I hear anything. But it's only been there for 2 days now, and I understand this type of thing takes many days to gel. I will try this, without a doubt, but it is now summertime (finally) and I'm spending more time outside then in when I'm not working. So I don't expect that I will get to this soon; there's also a vacatioin looming.

Bob

[rollo]

   Just breaking your chops Bob. Yes ,yes you are the endless experimenter. Your system has come a long way, so I'm told.
   OK I installed the Infinity on the circuit breaker cover plate over the breaker as per Alans instruction. Well he was right. It kicked it up a notch or two. There is just more there than before.
    I've been fooling around with this hobby for over 35 years, seen a lot, heard a lot and bought my fair share. Nothing that I've owned before has made such a dramatic change for the good as this device. BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!
   When I look at it I just laugh. How can a device that you don't even plug in have such an affect. Hard to believe until you hear the affect. This is not bang for the buck its KA BOOM for the buck. 


charles

[Carlman]

Are these devices something you put on, then it sounds like crap, then starts to get better and better over time?  Is it something you could take off, let it sound like crap again, then over time would it get better again?  Or is it absolutely better...  Or is it not worth the experiment time to go the other way?
-C

[BobM]

Anything with a lengthy breakin can make you question your ears (and sanity).   But... then removing it should reveal something, right?   

Well the ERS paper has been on the breaker door for about a week now. I gave a critical listen to a few choice songs, then went and opened the panel door, swinging it wide so it is no longer in proximity to the breakers. Then went back and listened to the same choice cuts.

No difference as far as I can tell.

Maybe this depends on the amount of RFI and EMI in proximity to your house and or your AC lines? My breaker box is fairly new (< 5 years) and my neighborhood is not as rural as some. Maybe the ERS paper isn't terribly effective? Who knows.

I may pull it off the breaker box and use it inside the cover of my new CD player (it came off the old CD player).

Bob

[AlanMaher]

Maybe the ERS paper isn't terribly effective? Who knows.

It's not.

[rollo]

Are these devices something you put on, then it sounds like crap, then starts to get better and better over time?  Is it something you could take off, let it sound like crap again, then over time would it get better again?  Or is it absolutely better...  Or is it not worth the experiment time to go the other way?
-C

  Yes. No. YES. NO. 


charles

[Woodsyi]

....regeneration                 

Would you give me technical reasons for the laughs.  I am curious.  I want to know if regeneration isolates the downstream gears from the wall socket or the rest of the house electricity still affects the sound from the gear playing off the regenerated power.  AC/DC/AC sounds like it should work fine as an isolation method...