CAPS

[opnly bafld]

They are defending their sanity. They know what happens when you chase "better sound." Better to deny it exists. 

Sane people don't attack like a rabid pack of wild dogs.

[_Scotty_]

There is a lot of Mass-Fi out there. Those people on AVS don't have to deaf, they just have to own systems with low enough resolution that they can't hear anything. Remember Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything is crap.
Scotty

[tmazz]

There is a lot of Mass-Fi out there. Those people on AVS don't have to deaf, they just have to own systems with low enough resolution that they can't hear anything. Remember Sturgeon's Law, 90% of everything is crap.
Scotty

Only 90%??????

[richidoo]

Please stop the AVS bashing
Thank you!

[bacobits]

Noted.
I changed my comments.

D

[Face]

I found this over at AVS Forum . I didn't read through the whole thing but it seems that all over AVS everyone thinks every type of tweak is snake oil

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1279823

Many of them feel that most amps sound the same.  I know you don't believe that.

[BobM]

Just ordered some AmpOhm aluminum PIO caps from the Tube Store. I'll try these out and see what's what with them, both by themself and bypassed with a Russian teflon. My Christmas holiday project 

In case anyone is interested, the Amp Ohm Aluminum foil in oil 1.0 uF caps came in last week and I burned them in for 2 days before installing them in my phono preamp. I gave them quite a few album sides over the weekend to get them fully settled in place before performing my A-B using the polarity switch. The other side has MultiCap's PPFXS. Both the Amp Ohms and Multicaps are bypassed with .1uF Russian Teflons.

All in all I believe the Multicaps sound a bit more detailed and slightly clinical in comparison to the Amp Ohms. I can't say I notice any tonality differences. Maybe a slightly "bigger" bass with the Amp Ohms. The biggest difference between the two is the Amp Ohms just seem more relaxed. A very subtle difference, for sure, and not an audiophile approved categorization. The extension top (with the teflon bypasses) and bottom seem to be the same. No additional bloom or soundstaging that I can discern.

Nothing disconcerting using the teflon bypass on the Amp Ohm's. They seem fast enough to not show any anomalies. All in all, not quite the difference that I was anticipating. I do appreciate the less clinical nature, but I did expect a more obvious bloom from the oil caps that I got. Maybe it's just that the Multicap PPFXS's are damn good in their own right.

Enjoy,
Bob

[richidoo]

Maybe it's just that the Multicap PPFXS's are damn good in their own right.

I love the Manley Shrimp preamp, but it has the edge buffed off a little too much, which drives me nuts. I always wondered if the big 30uF Multicaps on the output were the reason for it's very slight lack of detail and dynamics. I am glad to hear your report that they tend toward detail not softness, and thus are probably not the culprit.

[manaox2]

Perhaps a good comparison of price would be caps to cables. I believe both make a difference, but for a capacitor coupled design, I think caps may very well make the bigger difference in sound for the money.

Tapatalk

[evan1]

Just ordered some AmpOhm aluminum PIO caps from the Tube Store. I'll try these out and see what's what with them, both by themself and bypassed with a Russian teflon. My Christmas holiday project 

In case anyone is interested, the Amp Ohm Aluminum foil in oil 1.0 uF caps came in last week and I burned them in for 2 days before installing them in my phono preamp. I gave them quite a few album sides over the weekend to get them fully settled in place before performing my A-B using the polarity switch. The other side has MultiCap's PPFXS. Both the Amp Ohms and Multicaps are bypassed with .1uF Russian Teflons.

All in all I believe the Multicaps sound a bit more detailed and slightly clinical in comparison to the Amp Ohms. I can't say I notice any tonality differences. Maybe a slightly "bigger" bass with the Amp Ohms. The biggest difference between the two is the Amp Ohms just seem more relaxed. A very subtle difference, for sure, and not an audiophile approved categorization. The extension top (with the teflon bypasses) and bottom seem to be the same. No additional bloom or soundstaging that I can discern.

Nothing disconcerting using the teflon bypass on the Amp Ohm's. They seem fast enough to not show any anomalies. All in all, not quite the difference that I was anticipating. I do appreciate the less clinical nature, but I did expect a more obvious bloom from the oil caps that I got. Maybe it's just that the Multicap PPFXS's are damn good in their own right.

Enjoy,
Bob

You didn't see much of a difference either. I mainly got extended highs which sound really nice in my system so I would have to say I got an improvemnent. I still may go with the Clarity cap and see what happens.

[evan1]

UPDATE

I took the auricaps out . I was getting to much edginess in the midrange.

[richidoo]

Break in?

[evan1]

Break in?

plenty

[richidoo]

OK I accidentally deleted previous two attempts to respond to this, but 3rd time is a charm. My fingers hurt now so here is the quick version...

The bypass is pasing highs clearly, but lows are still forced to go through the Sonicap, and the resolution is not the same, so it sounds imbalanced. You will need to replace the Sonicap altogether to move forward. Just be aware that Klaus chose it for a reason, and you may hear more detail than you bargained for. But you can always put them back in.

If you aren't quite ready to jump off the upgrade cliff with your Candella yet, then try these inexpensive Vishays. 2.2uF will give you less phase shift in the bass than the 1uF you have now, they are 400VDC, but 46mm long so make sure they fit first, or just leave the leads long.
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay/MKT1813522405/?qs=snW7Thfrdqzv6lQntutCFg%3d%3d
I have used these in several places with good results. I am listening to them (.1uF) right now in my analog active crossover, with 4 of them per channel. After 100 hours it sounds very good, smooth, extended, detail, bass, etc. It's a different application than yours, so no guarantees. But your total cost is $20 shipped. I think they will be better than the bypassed Sonicaps. There are 2.2s in lower voltage too, if you know what voltage you actually need.

I'm gonna be putting 1uF and 10uF as signal couplers into my Pass B1, probably tomorrow, if you want to wait a few days I'll let you know how the big ones sound.

Or just jump off the cliff with some Claritys. 
Rich

[TomS]

I just put 4 Clarity MR's and some Duelund resistors as replacements in my speakers.  Too early in the break in zone to nail down anything specific but it's an obvious leap from the Solens that were in there.   They make the Solens seem like they didn't even know the songs.  Oh, and the MR's are rather huge, even in the same values.