Cartridge Time

[_Scotty_]

It has been my experience with my AT 440ML that the sound stage varies with the recording,frequently there will be instruments imaging between the listening position and the front plane of the speakers as well as behind and beyond the edges of the speakers. The only recordings that consistently image in the speaker plane and behind are classical recordings of symphony orchestras. Jazz,rock and other musical genre's can and do image anywhere.
Scotty

[eleazar]

 Thanks for the suggestions guys. High output MCs seem to be defeating the purpose of the MC . According to Benz anyway. they say the higher output rises the top. For rock a winner but for Classical and Jazz they recco the low output. Body is lost as well.
The reason for the MM or Moving iron is that is what my phonostage was designed for. Using a step up works well but the really good ones are expensive. That along with a fine MC is cost prohibitive at the moment. The main reason is the fullness and soul of the MM. Weight and body goes along way for me. So the top is not as detailed which may be a good thing. Now the hum thingie could be a issue so either Music Direct or the Needle Doctor will be used so it can be returned.
 I was thinking about the Soundsmith but the review said the presentation was forward and that is not my thing. Do not like forward in my face. Same for the 150MLX. Rich correct me if misinformed.  A trip to Soundsmith is planned to find out for myself.
Eleazer that's real nice of you. How do we do that ?
charles

I sent you a PM...........Bill

[rollo]

I've always had great success with high output MC's.  Of course the ones I liked best are from companies that no longer offer phone cartridges.  I've used Adcom Cross Coil series and a lovely model from Audioquest (whose model number escapes me). 

I listen to rock and pop, as well as jazz and classical on this:

Kenwood base (better than you think)
Sumiko FT3 arm
AI Modulus 2D pre
B&K Amp (weak point)
B&W 802 f special.  (pre matrix)

Your equipment, I'm sure, is much better, which is why I cringe at the MM cartridge.  I've never heard an MM that I thought sounded as good as even my moderately priced MC's. (Although that, in no way, precludes the existence of such a beast.)

  Thats why I am so torn. Always had MC as well as a MC phonostage. It's NERVOSA at its finest, Gotta cure the nervosa.


charles

[rollo]

It has been my experience with my AT 440ML that the sound stage varies with the recording,frequently there will be instruments imaging between the listening position and the front plane of the speakers as well as behind and beyond the edges of the speakers. The only recordings that consistently image in the speaker plane and behind are classical recordings of symphony orchestras. Jazz,rock and other musical genre's can and do image anywhere.
Scotty

Thanks Scotty just what I needed to hear about the AT440ML. Yes, agreed the recording dictates the soundstage, which we are familiar with. However  just did not want to have a cart. that exaggerates a forward presentation.

charles

[richidoo]

Gotta cure the nervosa.

Boooo

Crank up that nervosa! It is taking you to good places.  You have a sound in your mind you are trying to realize. That is artistic process. Don't compromise.

I would not put too much faith in what any manufacturer says about other people's products. Just because Benz can't make a balanced sounding HOMC doesn't mean nobody else can. Talk to people who have the same Phono pre as you about what carts they like. I bet Fremer will have some valuable advice if you give him a specific scenario.

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The main reason is the fullness and soul of the MM. Weight and body goes along way for me.

Oh, so you have heard AT 150MLX huh?

[tmazz]

Gotta cure the nervosa.

charles

Better odds you'll hit the Lotto. 

[rollo]

  After some research it appears the Goldnote Boboli Mk2 high output MC is the ticket. Matches well with the Linn arm. Has 2Mv output and loads at 47K. tracks at 1.6. Picking it up on Monday.
  Now cartridge leads. Cardas, Audioquest, ????   


charles

[richidoo]

Awesome!! You've been thinking about that one for a while. Looks fancy!



http://www.goldenote.it//product.php/idp=69/id=33

[djdube525]

  After some research it appears the Goldnote Boboli Mk2 high output MC is the ticket. Matches well with the Linn arm. Has 2Mv output and loads at 47K. tracks at 1.6. Picking it up on Monday.
  Now cartridge leads. Cardas, Audioquest, ????   


charles

From the same people who make the crust? 

I don't know why... it made me giggle... a little.

[tmazz]

Picking it up on Monday.
  Now cartridge leads. Cardas, Audioquest, ????   

Is there a Goldennote dealer in the area?

As for the leads, why don't you take your own advise and leave in place the ones that you currently have (at lease for right now.)

One change at a time.........  it's a lot harder to do than to say, isn't it. (This of course coming from someone  who has looked back and caught himself doing the same thing more times than I would like to admit.  )

I will be interested to know what you think of this cartridge since mine is getting on in years and may need replacing soon.

[etcarroll]

Picking it up on Monday.
 Now cartridge leads. Cardas, Audioquest, ????  

One change at a time.........  it's a lot harder to do than to say, isn't it. (This of course coming from someone  who has looked back and caught himself doing the same thing more times than I would like to admit.   )

What he said, and what you've said to me many times, 1 change at a time.

Hope you enjoy this cartridge, curious how you settled on a product from Italy, have you heard it before?

Meanwhile, I need to find the specs to my Denon 52F tonearm to plug into the cartridge/tonearm matching formula. I've been eyeballing the Shelter 510MKII MC, but don't want to buy anything till I have all the specs.

[allenzachary]

Glad you are going MC. 

While I have no experience with either company's tonearm leads, Cardas IC's blew away comparable AQ IC's, at least in my system.

[rollo]

Picking it up on Monday.
 Now cartridge leads. Cardas, Audioquest, ????  

Is there a Goldennote dealer in the area?

As for the leads, why don't you take your own advise and leave in place the ones that you currently have (at lease for right now.)

One change at a time.........  it's a lot harder to do than to say, isn't it. (This of course coming from someone who has looked back and caught himself doing the same thing more times than I would like to admit.   )

I will be interested to know what you think of this cartridge since mine is getting on in years and may need replacing soon.

Before you assume you should know your factoids.      The leads used are attached to the Linn cart   I have no extra leads, they broke when used with the Micro Benz SOOO I guess I need new ones, eh?
 In the mean time the Boboli Mk2 is marketed by Koetsu. Not bad company. The 2Mv output suits my MM phono stage to a tee. Loads at 47K tracks at 1.6 grams. Sells for $950 but I found a closeout for $675 from a distributor in Conn.
 


charles

[rollo]

 Well its on its way. A great match for the Linn arm. The guys on the Linn forum preferred it to the other choices I was considering. No I could not demo it, which is a usually a no no for me but , you gotta gamble once in a while.
  According to Koetsu a match made in heaven for a Linn. We shall see. They reccommend Ortofon 7N copper leads. No silver or rhodium wire or connectors. 



charles


   

[rollo]

Glad you are going MC. 

While I have no experience with either company's tonearm leads, Cardas IC's blew away comparable AQ IC's, at least in my system.

  Me too. At 2mv it should work fine with the MM phonostage which is 54db.


charles