VOODOO Copper Duplex Receptacle

Started by rollo, November 15, 2016, 02:27:21 PM

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richidoo

Thanks for the pics.

I was expecting the contacts to look redder with 95% copper.

In this video, the phosphor bronze guitar strings are only 92% copper, voodoo claims 95% copper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmxCU9k8TI

rollo

   Looks can be deceiving. Listen to the result after installation. Glad to see you bought one to actually try.
  When we compared the outlets to one another we had one Uberbuss with ad one without.
  In comparison the Voodoo sound was more open, transparent with more info. Bass was improved as well.
  Then we connected the Uber to a Pass & Seymor 5362A heavy duty receptacle at the wall, then the Voodoo at the wall. Same experience sound improved.
  All power cords used were TWL with copper plugs. Both Digital American high Current, Std. Digital American and 7+ series cords.
  Comparing the VooDoo to Furutech GTX-D the Furutech seemed almost equal with better bass from the Voodoo, very close call. Bang for the buck goes to Voodoo in our experiment.
   Looks are for looks don't be fooled. Put it in.


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Quote from: richidoo on November 23, 2016, 05:13:38 AM
Thanks for the pics.

I was expecting the contacts to look redder with 95% copper.

In this video, the phosphor bronze guitar strings are only 92% copper, voodoo claims 95% copper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmxCU9k8TI

   Lock them up ! Sorry could not resist, still had my Trump hat on. :rofl:




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Werd

Everyone get their Trump bucks out and buy one. 👍
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I've been looking at receptacles for quite a while since I started my journey in lunacy that is the audio business.  I settled on P&S because they sounded better than other spec grade receptacle in the original RevB MajikBUSS and the Uber.  I was looking for a specific sonic signature - neutral - in my application.

Receptacles are like any other tweak.  Different is just different.  Better is better.  Sometimes it is deceptive in that one area in sonics where one receptacle excels in a specific frequency range.  Add to this the fact that every system is different and we have a great platform for discussion.

I have found that the single most important aspect of the receptacle to be the surface finish of the material used as a conductor.  Next is the material alloy/plating, then the thickness of the contacts and finally having a non-magnetic receptacle.

Surface finish contributes to the overall noise floor of the receptacle/plug combination.

Isn't it interesting that something such as a receptacle can have such a profound influence on the overall sonic signature of a great system?

There are a lot of good receptacles to choose from - party on   :thumb:
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rollo

  Ordered [7] to play with. Me thinks the fact that the powercords I use have copper IEC and plug. The receptacles being copper as well is an advantage.
   So maybe in my case when we compared the Ubers directly with the different receptacles installed the all copper had an advantage.
   Guessing here as to why however the sonic result was that the Voodoo receptacles presented a more open sound stage with better focus and transparency.
    When we used the Furutech GTX against the Voodoo in the Digibuss the Furutech was colored in direct comparison. Colored warm which at first seemed more desirable. After listening awhile we concluded the Voodoo offered a more transparent less romantic sound. Neutral as neutral can be was our final conclusion.
     At the wall the Voodoo did the same thing. Increased stage more dynamic with stronger bass.
    So is the Voodoo just a better receptacle or in our tests the copper to copper hook up aided the final outcome.


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Werd

I have a bunch of those voodoo outlets. Those are the same outlets that came in my Torus.  They are good but not in the same class as the Furutech. 
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Quote from: alfredh on November 22, 2016, 11:12:06 AM
Charles,
How does the Voodoo Copper Duplex compare to the Furutech GTX-D (Rhodium) ?

thanks,
AH

I own both and including the Furutech GTX-D gold.  I have like 5 of those Voodoo outlets...  :rofl:. They are better suited for comparison against the GTX Rhodium in my Torus. The Furutech is a far more fleshed out sounding outlet than the Voodoo while powering the treble. The way Rhodium does compared to the gold.
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I have the Furutech GTX Rhodium and GTX Gold. Both good. Neither are as good as the Furutech FPX Copper polished by Dave. Not even close.
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I have learned that there is not a "best receptacle."  That estimation is overplayed beyond reason.  The best receptacle is the one that sounds best.  Doesn't have to be the most expensive either.

There are specific characteristics of each material and plating that can be learned and applications extrapolated from them.  That takes time and cut and try or sharing what we have learned.  This includes speakers, amp types and everything else about the system.
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Werd

I don't recall anyone saying it was the best. I only recall, well me anyways, the Furutech was only better than the Voodoo outlet. Doesn't have to be true. just saying...
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 Thanks guys, interesting findings Werd from your hands on experience. As far as best I agree there is no "best" in our hobby, maybe best for ones application but not best in general.
  At &60 retail with Graphite cover plate  compared to Furutech it is IMHO bang for the buck. Thats all folks.

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We all have enough time on the boards to know statements made are in our experience, in our systems.
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Werd

I think it is safe to say the craftmanship is superior on the Furutech outlet. It feels heavier than the Voodoo. Better designed using the flares to cover the contacts. If anything the two outlets demonstrate, if you make the contacts better along with plating it can make real audible differences. The Hubbell rebadged voodoo is good outlet and I would use it for a production model then leave the Furutechs for tweakers.
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Quote from: rpf on December 05, 2016, 07:14:35 AM
We all have enough time on the boards to know statements made are in our experience, in our systems.

  Not all Rob like you unfortunately. Lots of hooting from the hip out there and here as well.

merry, merry

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