DIY roller blocks??

Started by Nick B, March 17, 2021, 11:29:13 PM

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toobluvr

I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:
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toobluvr

Don't have a big funnel to allow quick sand flow?  Just use an empty gallon jug (milk, bleach, etc) and cut off the bottom.


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rollo

  The sand filling will give you a solid foundation the Fritz speakers like. We prefer a mixture of lead shot and play sand. A PIA however worth the effort. Then Blu-Tac them to top plate and be happy. As far as roller blocks, Herbies and footers in general one must know if draining, transferring, soaking up is the proper method for said piece of gear. Footers have different ways of working.
I would decouple stand from floor if a suspended wood if concrete spike it baby. If spikes are used we like decoulping speaker from stand ot Blu-Tac them. Need to try each way. Have fun as one effect may not be the same in another set up.

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Nick B

Quote from: toobluvr on April 28, 2021, 10:36:37 AM
I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:

You are starting to persuade me....  :lol:
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Nick B

Quote from: rollo on April 28, 2021, 11:15:51 AM
  The sand filling will give you a solid foundation the Fritz speakers like. We prefer a mixture of lead shot and play sand. A PIA however worth the effort. Then Blu-Tac them to top plate and be happy. As far as roller blocks, Herbies and footers in general one must know if draining, transferring, soaking up is the proper method for said piece of gear. Footers have different ways of working.
I would decouple stand from floor if a suspended wood if concrete spike it baby. If spikes are used we like decoulping speaker from stand ot Blu-Tac them. Need to try each way. Have fun as one effect may not be the same in another set up.

charles

Charles, Your recommendations to me in the past have been spot on. But there's a point where it's just not worth it to me...like combining lead shot with sand. I'm already using Herbie's fat dots between the stand and the Fritzies. I've discussed some of this with Robert at Herbie's and he's been very helpful. There's a point for me where the experimentation takes the fun out of it. At least, that's my thinking at this time in my life. As I've previously mentioned, I'm getting a level of tonality now that I didn't think would be possible.
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toobluvr

#111
IMO, don't worry about mixing shot in with sand! 

I seriously doubt you will hear any difference vs. straight sand, or that anyone can.   :roll: 

Make it easy and cheap on yourself.  Just get the stands solid, don't sweat the super anal superfluous stuff.     :thumb:
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Nick B

Quote from: toobluvr on April 28, 2021, 10:36:37 AM
I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:


OK, I'm convinced. I realize your advice is for my own good  :lol:   
I'll do it once those M6 spikes arrive.
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toobluvr


Trying to do this??     :rofl:



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Nick B

Quote from: toobluvr on April 28, 2021, 03:42:00 PM

Trying to do this??     :rofl:



Yes! I haven't figured out how to post a simple gif here  :roll:
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toobluvr

(1)  put cursor on the image.  R click for menu.  Then L click on copy image address

(2)  once in AudioNervosa REPLY dialog box, look above and L click on insert image

(3)  now R click for menu, then L click on paste


done!    :thumb:

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Nick B

Quote from: Nick B on April 28, 2021, 03:44:03 PM
Quote from: toobluvr on April 28, 2021, 03:42:00 PM

Trying to do this??     :rofl:



Yes! I haven't figured out how to post a simple gif here  :roll:

You mean like this? That is the same methodology I use when posting album covers in the "what are you listening to now" section. For whatever reason, I wasn't doing that with simple gifs. I was trying to do a copy and paste. Thanks for the simple lesson  :thumb:
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toobluvr

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TT1: Townshend Rock 3/OL Encounter Mk3C
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Nick B

Doug,
Surprisingly, the choices weren't good. I looked at a number of US sites. Either spikes and protective pads together or 3/8" or 1/2" long, then 2" long. The UK ones were just right and cheap too including shipping. They've already shipped as well. I'll do sand. There's a Lowe's and Home Depot close by. I'll make sure that sand is completely dry as well. Have a good sized funnel. I never had the stands completely level before, so I'm going to be diligent doing that. I know the slab isn't level.

Quote from: doug s. on April 28, 2021, 08:30:40 PM
sand is good, and it's easy, re: the funnel method or a cut jug, as described above.

re: m6 spikes, just do a google search on "m6 spikes", and you will come up w/a plethora of sources, likely much faster and less expensive than having to buy from the uk...  or maybe you've already done that?

doug s.
Quote from: Nick B on April 28, 2021, 01:14:57 PM
Quote from: toobluvr on April 28, 2021, 10:36:37 AM
I have also filled stands with sand...several times.  So I agree it's a bit tedious if you feed it in slowly like on the video.  But use a big funnel with a big bottom hole and it's a breeze actually.   Just pour the sand in, takes a few minutes.

Even if SQ does not improve (it will) your columns become much more stable.      :thumb:


OK, I'm convinced. I realize your advice is for my own good  :lol:   
I'll do it once those M6 spikes arrive.
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Nick B

Quote from: toobluvr on April 28, 2021, 05:15:04 PM
:clap:   :clap:

Thank you. Seems anything's possible nowadays. Old dog = new tricks  :)
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