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Systemic Development => Analog Devices => Topic started by: mdconnelly on March 19, 2010, 01:20:13 PM

Title: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: mdconnelly on March 19, 2010, 01:20:13 PM
Check this out: http://lifehacker.com/5495614/use-wood-glue-to-clean-and-restore-old-lps

Anyone ever try this?
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 19, 2010, 02:46:12 PM
Not tried that yet, but it's a great idea! Thanks Mike!  Maybe it's inspired by this? (http://www.biore.com/usa/products/product_detail.aspx?pid=11)

I use titebond to remove tiny splinters and FG that I can't see from my hands.  I wonder what the sheet of dried glue looks like after the cleaning, to see what it pulled off? That would be cool. How bout using a backing sheet of paper to make it easier to pull off, and easier to see the gook it removed?  Who's gonna be the first to try?   :D

I also like the enzyme LP cleaning idea too. Someone mentioned on AC a few months back using surgery room enzymatic cleaner. It dissolves anything.
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: tmazz on March 20, 2010, 08:18:23 PM
I have no reason to doubt that this would work, but..... 4 - 6 hours to clean one side of an LP????? :shock:

I for one, would lose my mind.  [-(

Thanks, but I'll stick with my VPI machine.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 21, 2010, 06:58:55 AM
I asked my wife, she thought it was stupid.   :duh



So it's a go!   :thumb:  I will try it on her record first.
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: mdconnelly on March 21, 2010, 08:24:36 AM
What I'm curious about is how much better it can clean really old vinyl.  For example, I've got some original Beatles vinyl that date back to original release in the 60s.  I know it was not well taken care of (because I bought it when I was a teenager).  I don't play it now because it's noisy as hell - probably because of being played on really crappy turntables back then, but.. it might be worth trying the glue approach just to see...  is the vinyl really chewed up or is it really just dirt... I suspect the former.

If I do, I'll post the results.  If it can't work miracles I see no way it's worth doing given the time and mess involved.
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 21, 2010, 09:07:22 AM
I was thinking of what kind of backer substrate could be  used iwth glue to make it easier to peel off, and still allow the glue to dry "quickly."  A piece of fiberglass screen would do the job, as would cheesecloth, both are cheap. Paper would slow the drying.    I'm gonna try it too. I have a Miles Porgy and Bess LP that got ceiling drywall compound dust on it. One side is dead quiet the other is a nightmare, liquid cleaners have not worked. Granted I never used a machine or hightech liquid.

Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: stereofool on March 21, 2010, 11:47:08 AM
Rich,

:duh If you will remind me, then the next time I'm over there...I will bring my VPI machine and we will clean some of your vinyl.
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 21, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
Thanks Steve. RobS cleaned about 10 of them, they sound so much better now.   Only 300 more to go... I better get a couple gallons of Titebond.  :D
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: tmazz on March 21, 2010, 05:42:44 PM
Quote from: richidoo on March 21, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
Thanks Steve. RobS cleaned about 10 of them, they sound so much better now.   Only 300 more to go... I better get a couple gallons of Titebond.  :D

Only 310 LPs?????  :shock:

Shame on you.  :roll:

:lol:
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 21, 2010, 07:01:48 PM
I have all Clifford Brown, all Art Blakey, all Miles Davis, all Charlie Parker on vinyl. What else is there?  ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: tmazz on March 21, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: richidoo on March 21, 2010, 07:01:48 PM
I have all Clifford Brown, all Art Blakey, all Miles Davis, all Charlie Parker on vinyl. What else is there?  ;)

Ben Webster perhaps :thumb:
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: AcidJazz on March 22, 2010, 11:38:18 AM
Duke Ellington...Charles Mingus.?
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 22, 2010, 11:39:23 AM
I got them on CD ;)
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: tmazz on March 23, 2010, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: richidoo on March 22, 2010, 11:39:23 AM
I got them on CD ;)

Being drawn to the dark side you are?  :twisted:
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: rollo on March 23, 2010, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: tmazz on March 23, 2010, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: richidoo on March 22, 2010, 11:39:23 AM
I got them on CD ;)

Being drawn to the dark side you are?  :twisted:

Hopefully talking about the CD not the players. :rofl:


charles
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: richidoo on March 23, 2010, 11:40:11 AM
I read more of the thread over on AK today. It  is very interesting! I think I will try it.  I'm glad I read more though, I would have used the Titebond 1 that I have. Supposedly that glue shrinks and cracks when it dries in this application, so Titebond2 is necessary which does not shrink. See page 34 of the AK thread.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837&page=34

There are before and after waveforms, showing removal of the pops.
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: mdconnelly on March 23, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
Rich, by removing pops, is it just that it removes embedded micro-gunk or is it actually dealing with scratches and the like which often cause pops?   (I know, I could read the entire thread but I'm just too lazy  :duh
Title: Re: Cleaning vinyl - the painful way
Post by: evan1 on September 25, 2011, 01:21:16 PM
I'm letting the glue dry. We'll see if it works.