I have asked Steve of SAS Audio Labs if he'd be interested in doing a tour of his latest preamp... or any preamp for that matter... and I am very happy to announce he said "YES!" :) Thank you very much, Steve for allowing us to organize this tour. I hope it's a wild success. 8) I'm extra thankful it's your latest reference model. :) :)
Please express your interest and zip code on this thread so we can organize the tour by location. The tour will start in the mid-Atlantic, 2 people have already expressed interest in hearing it there... And Rich and I both would like to hear it as well... So, East Coast is first...
Basically, Steve will ship it to its first destination and then each person will ship it (insured) to the next, communicate it here, and so on. We'll organize the list of people and places here, in this thread. After a couple of weeks, or when Steve feels it's got enough tour stops, we'll stop adding names to the tour.
OK, now for the rules and regulations... Steve's a very nice guy but he's sending out his best preamp to a bunch of audio nuts on an internet forum... (and I'm footing the deposit) So, we need to have a few ground rules and such:
In order to participate you must:
- Be an existing AudioNervosa members and a non-profesional reviewer.
- Pay for full insurance and shipping fees to the next reviewer. Steve prefers DHL or FedEx. If neither is an option, UPS.
- Communicate in this thread when:
1- You received it (from whom)
2- You shipped it (to whom) - Please supply a review of some sort.. can be short and sweet or long and philisophical... If you are the first to audition the 11a, start a review thread in the Bipolar section of AN.
So far, here's the list of participants; I'll update the order when the tour starts:
(updated 8/19)
Bunky (Auditioned, Reviewed, Shipped)
Carlman/Richidoo Awaiting arrival (will ship on 8/27)
Woodsyi
LonewolfNY42 (arrive by ~9/10)
DangerBird
Biglou
WEEZ
mca
Rich will be helping organize the tour. Feel free to PM him or me with any questions.
Thanks,
Carl
Count me in....WCW III Zip 21060
Carl...I'm really mid-south...(TN) 38506....
me too! in little rock, zip 72203
Steve/Carl/Rich,
How much time to we get to spend with it? 8-[
WEEZ
Quote from: WEEZ on July 28, 2007, 01:51:58 PM
Steve/Carl/Rich,
How much time to we get to spend with it? 8-[
WEEZ
Not sure yet... depends on how many get on the tour... I'll talk to Steve and see if he has any thoughts... or maybe he'll chime in here?
-C
Hi Guys,
I want to thank Carl for organizing the tour and for putting up the deposit. Thanks Carl for your time and efforts.
Also, thanks for taking the time to write reviews etc. It is much appreciated.
Take care.
ps. I will be sending along a pair of my low capacitance "V" ICs to connect between the preamp and the amplifier. There is no need to comment on these. Just in case one does not have low capacitance types to use. I think I will also send stereophile's CD3. Track 10 is a soundstage recording, testing different mics. For those unfamiliar, it tests from side to side and front to back ratio. At one point, the gent is 50 feet from the mic in the auditorium and walks toward the front. Great for checking soundstage distortion.
Great, thanks Steve and Carl !!
The 11A...haven't heard that one....did try the 10A on the last audition tour....a nice preamp. 8)
Count me in....11501 NY....thanks !!!
Chris
Count me in,,30228,,I can ship/receive DHL from my work--thanks
I am going to see if my packer will use wood as the outside box, for greater durability. I think she could still use cardboard for the inner box. She double box for insurance reasons, of course. I wonder if wood outer box will cause problems for anyone?
Any thoughts about shippers? I have had bad luck with UPS and would prefer UPS not be used unless absolutely necessary. Personally I would prefer DHL if possible. When shipping, I would insure for $1995.00 since the pre is blemished.
Looks like we are getting a nice group. Thanks guys.
I think a plywood outter box makes a lot of sense, Steve. Keep the inner box and everything inside light as possible to keep weight down... but also protect the pre for a long tour.... likely 6-10 weeks in as many folks hands... If it's clear where all the pieces go and no one has to guess how to repack, you'll have better chances avoiding damages.
Thanks,
Carl
P.S. I think everyone should get a week with this preamp that includes a weekend. So, what do we think about a 5-10 day tour stop? If you get a chance to hear it in your system for a few days and can really sit down and enjoy it a few evenings, is there a need to keep it any longer before it moves?
As for me, having no preamp yet, I might need a good 3-4 months before I can really get the full impact of Steve's masterpiece playing in my system; while those on the tour before me will probably only need to listen to it for a day - or maybe less. :lol: hehe
I guess setting up a DHL account would be the easiest way to ship with them?
Rich
Got some info on the wooden crate.
Box Weight/Total weight: 51 / 71lbs
Length + Girth: 109"
Sorry but no account will be available.
Take care.
Steve
Quote from: richidoo on July 29, 2007, 02:20:39 PM
I guess setting up a DHL account would be the easiest way to ship with them?
OOPS, I meant me setting up my own account with DHL so they will come to pick it up and I won't have to drive to a drop off desk. You paying for everyone's shipping is not what I was implying!!! Sorry for the confusion.
Rich
I'd love to get on the list if it will be anywhere in my area (Kirkland, WA 98033)
71 lbs. is a bit heavy... I'll send a PM with more thoughts...
-C
Quote from: richidoo on July 31, 2007, 10:06:01 AM
Quote from: richidoo on July 29, 2007, 02:20:39 PM
I guess setting up a DHL account would be the easiest way to ship with them?
OOPS, I meant me setting up my own account with DHL so they will come to pick it up and I won't have to drive to a drop off desk. You paying for everyone's shipping is not what I was implying!!! Sorry for the confusion.
Rich
Re wrote.
I understand Rich. No problem.
I know, Carl, that is alot of weight. The last tour, on AC, I had no problems (except with one reviewer who dropped the preamp after unpacking). I want to make sure you are protected since you are taking care of the deposit.
Maybe, everyone would have to purchase a new outer box before shipping? I think it is just a few bucks?
What do you guys think?
Unfortunately, 71 pounds of shipping fee ($100?) would make it a flyover for me.
Inner and outer tri-ply heavy duty boxes should protect it well enough. Insurance is always there in case of a real disaster.
I always thought that overpackaging would entice the rascals working the loading dock to deliberately test it. If it weighed 71 pounds they might not set it down so gently. "It can take it, it's packed in wood!" I am a certified pessimist.
I agree with Rich...
In a former life I did some packaging design :roll:..... :lol:
The regular box; placed in an outer tri-wall with foam in-between the inner and outer box should be sufficient. Too little; and the shipper will damage it. Too much and they'll damage it worse :D
Also, just an FYI; in my home town, DHL has a lousy reputation. Fed-EX I can personnally say is worse. Believe it or not, UPS is the best here locally. But I'll use whatever the concensus is....
WEEZ
QuoteThe regular box; placed in an outer tri-wall with foam in-between the inner and outer box should be sufficient. Too little; and the shipper will damage it. Too much and they'll damage it worse
I agree Don....worked for me when I ship things...I'd add 2-3" of heavy bubble wrap around the preamp first, then it goes into the first box. 8)
As for carrier....all the stuff I sent as "loanwolf"...always went FedEx....and it all survived.
Chris
Hi guys,
Thanks for the input. I still have some reservations concerning UPS, but whatever one has best luck with, I don't see a big problem. I defer to Carl for thumbs up or down.
Probably no need to mention this, but may I also suggest when one writes a review, that one includes peripherals, such as ICs, speaker cable, and power cords etc?
Quote from: steve on August 01, 2007, 11:20:22 AM
Hi guys,
Thanks for the input. I still have some reservations concerning UPS, but whatever one has best luck with, I don't see a big problem. I defer to Carl for thumbs up or down.
Probably no need to mention this, but may I also suggest when one writes a review, that one includes peripherals, such as ICs, speaker cable, and power cords etc?
I give it the thumbs up given that people will take care to ship the best way they know. We're a responsible bunch here and I expect things will go well. The double box of cardboard seems sufficient to me.
Let's get this party started! :)
Preamp should be leaving as soon as the deposit arrives. Included is a pair of Low capacitance ICs, for the output of the preamp (in case one does not have a pair) and Stereophile CD3, which I treated and one wants to try out track 10 or any track 1-10. (Higher tracks are for testing purposes and one does at one's own risk).
I will post when I ship to Bunky (Will send tracking number pm. Let the auditions begin.
Cool.. Check is going out in tomorrow's mail.
BTW, Rich and I would like to have the preamp come around our way the 20th of August... thereabouts... For a big gathering he's hosting.
-C
Hi Guys,
Just a few tidbits concerning operation of the 11A. The front is self explanatory, except that when the mute function activates it will take approx 45 seconds to cycle, before sound. This occurs with any power interruption.
On the back there are several functions.
Next to the fuse is a toggle switch that works 'sideways'. This is the AC power polarity reversal switch. It can be changed on the fly, but may activate the mute circuit. Try each way and choose for best sound.
Next to the output jacks is a knob to control the low end response. It can be adjusted on the 'fly', with the power on. When it is adjusted, it may take 20 minutes or more for the sound to fully stablize. It appears that adjusting this control acts the same as if an IC was just plugged in.
Next to the knob is a toggle switch that controls the very top end. Not much mind you. Up position is off and down is activated.
Use of low capacitance ICs on the output is recommended for best performance. My "V"s are 40pf total. The less capacitance the better, but up to 100pf is acceptable.
Might try my "V" ICs both ways. On the plug of each is a color band, red and black respectively.
That is about it. Enjoy.
Rich/Carl/Steve,
Is there a 'schedule', or 'order of audition' list yet? Just curious...
WEEZ
Here's a draft list of the shipping order. I'm open to suggestions that make more sense. I think it is already going to Bunky first.
Bunky
Carlman (Please arrive 8/20ish for G2G on 25th)
Richidoo
LonewolfNY42
Woodsya
DangerBird
Biglou
WEEZ
mca
The shipping fee out west to Mike will be proportionately higher than the other stops, so I moved that leg to the closest person to Mike, which without looking at a map I think is Don. The next longest leg is up to Chris, so I will take that one. If anyone has a better solution, I'm all ears. Mike you can ship back to Steve, or whoever else jumps in along the way until either Steve or Carl say "enough is enough"
Thank you!
Rich
A few zig-zag's. :lol:
If possible....could I get delivery close to Sept. 15th....there's a Rave that day...should be a good turn out (on L.I.)...with many ears to listen, and more comments... 8)
Maybe I can drop back behind Woodsya (Rim?)....thanks guys !!! :D
Chris
Rich,
I am in between you and Chris. I can take it before Chris if the timing works out but I don't think there is time. The way I figure it, Carl has it from Aug 20-27; you, 29 to Sept 5. Chris gets it around the 10th for the RAVE on the 15th and I get it after. I can try to get the Bolder/Bent/Burson "preamp" to my place around that time to compare the three: Modwright, SAS and BBB. I will call in some MAAC guys to do some listening.
If Rich is willing, he and I can audition it in the same timeframe since we're in the same area... I'll play it at my house for a day or 2, then take it to Rich's for the big get-together... then he can ship it the following Monday or Tuesday Aug 27/28 or so...
If you ship it to Chris by Sept 10, that'd give you at least a full week... How's that sound?
-C
Thanks guys. As usual Carl beats me to it with lightning fast typing fingers - and maybe too much coffee? hehe Seems like the list order will work because Chris gets it by 10th and then Rim can have it as long as he wants and not have to hurry to line up other gear for comparo if he were to get the SAS too soon.
I originally wanted to mail it to Chris because it is a longer distance so I could get the higher shipping, then all the other legs except Mike would be zigzag but short. But it turns out to have another good reason in the timing, I forgot about the Sept Rave. But thanks for the offer to intercept, Rim! I think shipping around the east and south is not a big difference compared to the trip out west. Anybody for a mca shipping relief fund? throw in a couple bucks for Don to offset shipping to Mike? Just a thought. Maybe I am making more out of it than necessary.
I will send it shortly after my G2G, probably on 27th. I don't need to keep it for a full week. Carl and I can share it over a week or 10 days.
Steve, is it shipped to Bunky yet? :) Thanks
Rich
Not to be bound to a deadline would be nice, but I think I can work with the Labor Day weekend as well (I get more time off to listen). So, send it to me whenever you two are done. Thanks, BTW, for all these tours.
Quote from: Woodsyi on August 08, 2007, 07:36:28 AM
Not to be bound to a deadline would be nice, but I think I can work with the Labor Day weekend as well (I get more time off to listen). So, send it to me whenever you two are done. Thanks, BTW, for all these tours.
Yeah, thanks Carl for popping for this one!!
OK then the order is
Bunky (should receive soon)
Carlman (Please arrive 8/20ish for G2G on 25th)
Richidoo (ship on 8/27)
Woodsyi
LonewolfNY42 (arrive by ~9/10)
DangerBird
Biglou
WEEZ
mca
Thanks everybody!
Rich
Quote from: richidoo on August 08, 2007, 07:18:07 AM
Thanks guys. As usual Carl beats me to it with lightning fast typing fingers - and maybe too much coffee? hehe Seems like the list order will work because Chris gets it by 10th and then Rim can have it as long as he wants and not have to hurry to line up other gear for comparo if he were to get the SAS too soon.
I originally wanted to mail it to Chris because it is a longer distance so I could get the higher shipping, then all the other legs except Mike would be zigzag but short. But it turns out to have another good reason in the timing, I forgot about the Sept Rave. But thanks for the offer to intercept, Rim! I think shipping around the east and south is not a big difference compared to the trip out west. Anybody for a mca shipping relief fund? throw in a couple bucks for Don to offset shipping to Mike? Just a thought. Maybe I am making more out of it than necessary.
I will send it shortly after my G2G, probably on 27th. I don't need to keep it for a full week. Carl and I can share it over a week or 10 days.
Steve, is it shipped to Bunky yet? :) Thanks
Rich
Steve Sammet just called me a few minutes ago to tell me that he is going to ship the 11A to me Tomorrow.
woopee!
Thanks guys !!!! :beer:
The SAS 11A has been packed and shipped to me, estimated time of Arrival is on Monday 8/13/07 8)
I just recieved the SAS Audiolabs 11A line preamplifier from Steve Sammet. it has a brushed gold finish and it looks nice.Lucky me!i just hooked it up to the HRAM Modded stage 3+ JD100A CD player and the Balanced Audio Technology VK 60 Tube amp. i am off of work for a couple of days so i will be able to spend some Quality time with it. :D thanks....WCW III
I just shipped the 11A to Rich at 9:00AM as soon as DHL was open. i insured it for $3000.00 and if all of the stars are in alignment Rich might get it by monday.thanks....WCW III
:D
Bunky,
Don't forget to start a 'review' thread :). You're first!
WEEZ
I have received the preamp in good condition. Looks and sounds beautiful, still just warming up.
NOW we're SAS-talkin'! ;)
Hi Gents,
It has come to my attention that the 11A has a technical problem. It seems after some period of time, a popping and/or hissing sound is eminating from one channel. It is not the tubes, maybe a resistor gone noisy or other problem. It is being shipped back for inspection and repair. An in depth check should reveal the problem.
I will keep everyone informed here.
Sorry about the inconvenience.
Shit happens! (somebody said that once :lol:)
Just a reminder that Oct.12th weekend is RMAF; so whoever has it that weekend (me?) it will be delayed a few days. Hope that's okay.
btw: Steve, will you be going to Denver that weekend?
WEEZ
Hi Weez,
No, I won't be there. We are having a family get together in Florida so mom can see her brothers gravesite again. Been quite awhile and don't know how long mom will be able to travel.
Hope you guys have a great time.
Steve
You'll be missed, Steve... and greatly sorry to hear the tour had to be paused for technical difficulties. I hope it's something minor and we get back to touring quickly.
Thanks,
Carl
Oh, well. I was holding a gathering on Sept 1 to listen to SAS along with 2 other preamps. I guess I can get it after RAVE after all. I will just have to find another pre to put in the mix for the meet. Ob la di, Ob la da....
Quote from: Woodsyi on August 23, 2007, 10:32:22 AM
Oh, well. I was holding a gathering on Sept 1 to listen to SAS along with 2 other preamps. I guess I can get it after RAVE after all. I will just have to find another pre to put in the mix for the meet. Ob la di, Ob la da....
Hi Woodsyi,
Don't give up on me. I got the weekend and all next week. I should know fairly early on, like over the weekend. Will keep advised. :)
Quote from: steve on August 23, 2007, 11:15:26 AM
Hi Woodsyi,
Don't give up on me. I got the weekend and all next week. I should know fairly early on, like over the weekend. Will keep advised. :)
Steve,
If Rich and Carl don't mind and you can get it to me in time, that would be fabulous. Perhaps Chris can send it back to NC after the RAVE?
BTW, if anybody is around the greater Washington DC area for the Labor Day weekend, you are cordially invited to join on the 1st.
Rim, Don't worry I told Steve exactly where my big screwdriver shorted between those big black round things while I was cleaning out a bug, so he'll be able to fix it fast. haha A little TIG welding and that box will be all straight again. hehe Just kidding!!
For the record, and before anybody puts me on the demo tour blacklist, I did NOT connect the amp output to the preamp input, or plug the interconnects into the wall socket, or anything else that would blow it up! Honest! It must have happened in shipping, because it was noisy from the first note. I spent a good day trying to figure out what was wrong to try to avoid a rescue trip back to Steve, but in the end it beat me. I worried myself to death trying to figure out how I was gonna follow Bunky's great review with true account of my experience, I didn't even think that it might be broken at that point. I knew I had to ask steve 'what the heck???' before I wrote anything, but not before I tried a couple different pairs of known good tubes to no improvement. Once he said come on home, I was able to get it off same day, by DHL, of course! ;)
From what I heard by "reading between the lines" - you're reeeealy gonna like it. Even with hiss and hum and spitting and popping, the stage was gigantic, and the musical colors were bright and joyous, but it was still very neutral, hard to describe in words. I do hope I get to hear it again, all 'right and proper.'
Rich
I'm looking forward to hearing it as well... We're moving to the new house in late September so all my listening will have to be at Rich's place at this point. I'm coming to a wall on audio-phility between now and a week or so from now... :(
But when it cranks back, man, it's going to crank big. :rofl:
Just try not to shatter the foundation before the paint dries.... :duh
So should I buy more groceries? :lol:
I think I found the problem with spitting and popping. Noisy plate resistor. Did a quick replacement early this afternoon (did not dissasemble the entire unit) and will run thru the weekend to be sure.
(The plate resistor runs at approx 8% of max dissapation rating and 13% of max voltage rating, but sometimes parts can just fail. But this is the first time a part has ever failed in a preamp. Arrrrg.)
I checked for hum using my usual technique. All seems quite normal and ready to send.
If all works ok over the weekend, should have the 11A to DHL Monday. Woodsyi, could you PM me with your address?
Thanks for your patience.
That's a relief! Glad it was easy fix.
Can someone please PM me or Steve Sammet ("steve") with the correct phone number of Woodsyi? Steve's trying to prepare the 11a for shipping tomorrow, but he can't get ahold of Rim to verify which address to ship to. I have two different addresses from demo tour and group buy.
Thanks!!
Rich
PMed both of you with my work address which is my preferred shipping address. Thanks for repairing the unit so quickly and let me keep my turn on time. Thanks Rich and Carl for giving up your time with it for the time being. :clap:
Well, Rim... sometimes you just gotta take one for the team... :rofl:
Seriously, no problem... we look forward to hearing it later in the tour....
-C
It is already missed, even when broken. :) (Honest!) You're gonna liiiiike it.......
Thanks to Rich and Steve working so quickly, I now have 11A in my system playing and both channels are working clearly. :clap: I am playing around with the tone control a little to adjust to my room and equipment. There is some difference from Modwright SWLP. I will report back after a few days.
Hi Woodsyi,
Ah, the vacuum tube rectified pre, or SS? Does it have SS regulation or tube regulation? The Mod I tried was the 9.0SE, SS rect and SS regulation and stock power cord. Should be an interesting comparison.
Quote from: steve on August 31, 2007, 01:20:28 PM
Hi Woodsyi,
Ah, the vacuum tube rectified pre, or SS? Does it have SS regulation or tube regulation? The Mod I tried was the 9.0SE, SS rect and SS regulation and stock power cord. Should be an interesting comparison.
Steve,
It's a full monty SWLP 9.0 SE with tube rectified PS, Black Gates on PS, Silver Bybees on the output and proprietary teflon coupling cap upgrade. I use the Black Sand Ref silver mk 5 on the PS. BTW, what tubes are in your preamp?
(http://www.jj-electronic.sk//images/small/E88CC.jpg)
JJ 6922 - E88CC :) ( I had a peek inside... )
Many, esp newbies, may not know it, but JJ has produced a super low distortion lineup of tubes. To my knowledge, only the E99cc tube matches or beats it in terms of lower harmonic distortion (HD). Turns out it was just the right tube I needed for my pre. Otherwise, I may have had a hard time designing around another tube for my application.
I agree about JJ. I needed a 12AT7 and did a lot of research. Claims of its superiority to other new and even vintage AT7s sounded to good to be true, but new, matched, balanced triodes pair with gold pins was not too big a risk. I have not compared them to vintage AT7 tubes but they are clearly superior to Electro Harmonix version.
Quote from: richidoo on September 01, 2007, 10:23:01 AM
I agree about JJ. I needed a 12AT7 and did a lot of research. Claims of its superiority to other new and even vintage AT7s sounded to good to be true, but new, matched, balanced triodes pair with gold pins was not too big a risk. I have not compared them to vintage AT7 tubes but they are clearly superior to Electro Harmonix version.
Hi Rich,
I agree Rich, the JJ 12at7 (E81cc) is quite low as well. Much lower than vintage 12at7s as far as HD is concerned. For newbies, when reading -db comparison figures of tubes at websites/forums, the information is very un-reliable at best.
For instance Amperex Bugleboy E88ccs, with D getters (I have actually measured at 2 output vrms), when used in my preamp have only .1% harmonic distortion. If one inspects other manufacturer's websites, one will usually find the same low distortion figures. That is -60db down from the fundamental, and predominately 2nd order. 3rd order is much lower.
Hey Guys,Yesterday i attended Woodsyi's BBQ/Preamp comparison.I met some old friends and found some new ones as well.We first listened to the Boulder modified Bent tap passive controller with a Burrson buffer installed in it that gave it 9db of gain. The SAS 11A line amplifier was the second one that we listened to. Third in line was Woodsyi's tube rectified full monty Modwright tube preamplifier. we picked four songs and matched the volume of each preamplifier with a ratshack db meter.None of the preamplifiers that we listened to were lacking in the sense that they sounded in any way objectionable.I also brought my Candela tube preamp and we listened to it right after dinner and everyone in attendance seemed to really like it as well, it was all good!thanks....WCW III
Thanks, Bunky!
FYI, There are a few more comments over on AC... Check it out here. (http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=44190.30)
Sorry for being late with feedback here. I am busy with the details of sending my daughter to Kindergarten for the first time yesterday. Already, we have had to speak to the principle for letting our daughter get off a school bus that she wasn't suppose to be on in the first place. She told a parent of another student that she can walk home by herself at which point the parent (happens to be a friend of the family) put her back on the bus to go back to school. She immediately contacted us and we got things straightened out -- she was suppose to go to SACC and be picked up by her mother. By the time we talked to the principle this morning, they had already figured out what happened and put appropriate procedures in place to make sure it wouldn't happen again. There was also a healthy display of remorse from the officials to let me think that it won't happen again.
Most of the comments have been made in the AC thread linked by Carl, but I wanted to put something here too. SAS 11A is a very good preamp but I have not yet figured out the right setting for my room. I like the adjustable features and I am still tweaking with it. I am biased toward tube bloom and find the 11A presentation slightly lean, but I am in the process of trying out different pot settings to see if I like the changes. I usually find NOS tubes to be beneficial on other preamps and wonder if a pair of Amperex pinched waist or 50s vintage Siemens might not add more texture than JJ's. I am getting more oomph in the bass after changing to Black Sand Ref silver 5. I will make my final comments after trying a few more things. Thanks for letting me audition the preamp.
P.S. Chris, can you PM me with your shipping address?
Thanks for your posts and comments Woodsyi. Much appreciate your time and efforts.
Alot of things can vary the sound, and as you mention, the trick is to find what matches in your system.
Thanks again Woodsyi.
PM sent.....thanks Rim... :beer:
................Chris
I was wondering the status of the 11A Woodsyi? I think Lonewolf needs it by 9/10.
Thanks.
Quote from: steve on September 10, 2007, 04:24:12 AM
I was wondering the status of the 11A Woodsyi? I think Lonewolf needs it by 9/10.
Thanks.
Steve....
Bad news.....the dog ate it.... :(
Just kidding......
Today is UPS delivery day...
So I'm here waiting. When it arrives I'll post and let you know....thanks !!
Chris
Just wanted to be sure you received it in time for the rave, Chris.
Take care and thanks to Woodsyi.
Thanks Steve....looking forward to hearing it. :D
5:40 PM.....
Rim...Carl....Steve...
The 11A has arrived in fine shape.... 8)
Nice golden finish....goes into system now.
Steve....I have a pair of your IC's already...
anything different about the new ones you sent ?
I see both wires are black now...mine are one red and one black.
About the power cord....does this come with the preamp or...
just something your sending around with the 11A ?
Thanks.................
...........Chris
And....it works... 8)
Have to read up again on the switches on the back...I've forgotten...
its been awhile since having the 10A here.
Thanks...........
............Chris
Quote from: lonewolfny42 on September 10, 2007, 02:55:13 PM
5:40 PM.....
Rim...Carl....Steve...
The 11A has arrived in fine shape.... 8)
Nice golden finish....goes into system now.
Steve....I have a pair of your IC's already...
anything different about the new ones you sent ?
I see both wires are black now...mine are one red and one black.
About the power cord....does this come with the preamp or...
just something your sending around with the 11A ?
Thanks.................
...........Chris
Hi Chris,
The fact that it has not been damaged by the shippers by now must be a record. :lol:
Yes, there should be some difference in the sound but can not remember how much. Been too long. The newer one is closer to 'nothing' than the older one, but you might want to compare and see what you think. I think they are close enough that they are system dependent, but don't quote me on that.
Yes, the color change is because the company does not manufacture Red any more except by special order. The L and R connectors should have a red and white stripe respectably.
And there is a color band on part of the connector, on the metal portion, on one end of each cable, so one can orient them the same. Might try checking them orientated both ways and see if there is a difference.
Yes again. The power cord is standard issue Chris; Jenalabs power cord. But it is not her expensive ones.
Take care and thanks.
Thanks Steve....
Besides the Rave on Saturday, I have a few amps to try it with...
AKSA Lifeforce
Butler 2250
KR Audio Antares VA320
Red Wine Audio Sig. 30
Chris
Quote from: lonewolfny42 on September 10, 2007, 04:27:37 PM
Thanks Steve....
Besides the Rave on Saturday, I have a few amps to try it with...
AKSA Lifeforce
Butler 2250
KR Audio Antares VA320
Red Wine Audio Sig. 30
Chris
Cooool! 8) Looking forward to hearing your impressions... Hope you have a fun time as well.
Thanks for the update!
-Carl
Cool Chris. The more experimenting, the better.
Well Steve....I've really been enjoying the 11A all week...
what a great job you've done with this preamp !! :D
Tonight I have it matched up with my KR Audio tube amp...
and a pair of Al's (Raw Acoustics) OBX2 speakers...great sound.
The 11A is so clean....lets you hear each and every change...nice !!!
I know it has to move on....so I don't know where its going...
Whose next ?
....let me know....thanks....(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/treasure.gif)
Chris
Thanks Chris, Woodsyi, Bunky, and the rest, for your efforts, and time. I really appreciate it.
Take care.
Quote from: lonewolfny42 on September 17, 2007, 10:47:39 PM
Well Steve....I've really been enjoying the 11A all week...
what a great job you've done with this preamp !! :D
Tonight I have it matched up with my KR Audio tube amp...
and a pair of Al's (Raw Acoustics) OBX2 speakers...great sound.
The 11A is so clean....lets you hear each and every change...nice !!!
I know it has to move on....so I don't know where its going...
Whose next ?
....let me know....thanks....(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/treasure.gif)
Chris
Since its still in NY could we have a shot at it. Would love to hear it with my Consonance Cyber 211s and Pipedreams. Please email me if still available. thanks.
rollo
Link (http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=518.msg5045#msg5045) to original order of tour. Dangerbird is next.
Rollo I'm getting a do-over after the scheduled stops. If it is OK with steve, I can send it to you then. Jumping into the middle of the list is fine with me, but others will have to agree.
Quote from: richidoo on September 18, 2007, 08:44:54 AM
Link (http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=518.msg5045#msg5045) to original order of tour. Dangerbird is next.
Rollo I'm getting a do-over after the scheduled stops. If it is OK with steve, I can send it to you then. Jumping into the middle of the list is fine with me, but others will have to agree.
Whatevery you guys decide is fine with me Rich. Thanks.
OK.... I've sent Dangerbird a PM for his shipping info.
Soon as I hear back from him, the 11A will be on its way.
........Chris
Thanks guys,
I didn't mean to jump in the middle. If its a problem no big deal. I can wait. Thanks for the consideration.
rollo
I'll send to you rollo. Then you can send it back to steve.
Dangerbird....
The 11A is heading your way...watch for FedEx...
I've PM'd you the tracking info....enjoy !!!
..........Chris
got it today,, thanks,,, unpacking now :D
When Dangerbird is done auditioning the pre, I need to ask a question to all. However, I do not want to influence DBs review.
When finished, could you hold on to it DB?
Thanks.
Indefinately :lol: Just kidding,, pm'd.
For those who may be just joining us in this string, Lonewolfny42 just posted a review the other day at "Bipolar System Disorders", page 1.
http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=571.0
Thanks.
next please,, please send me your addy and I'll get it out,,Biglou,, I think it's you,,pm'd.
Hi,
No response from Biglou???????? (I got a PM from dangerbird to that effect)
I'll jump in line if no response from Biglou by the end of the week
WEEZ
I emailed Tyler (biglou is his dog :) ) I asked him to PM you dangerbird.
Thanks
Rich
no reply yet..WEEZ,please pm your addy and I'll get it ready in case I do nor hear from Tyler,, hope all is well with him.
George and Steve,
Sorry for not responding 'till now. I have been so sick with pneumonia that I couldn't even sit at my computer this past weekend.
Steve, if you need it back...I will skip my place in line. Now is not the best time for me. I'm going in for another battery of tests on Thurs. If you can give me some time...I would very much like to audition the 11a.
George, I'll get back to you once Steve responds.....
WEEZ
Weez,
Had that. Be carefull man. Hope the tests are good. Get well soon
rollo
Quote from: WEEZ on October 15, 2007, 08:59:01 AM
George and Steve,
Sorry for not responding 'till now. I have been so sick with pneumonia that I couldn't even sit at my computer this past weekend.
Steve, if you need it back...I will skip my place in line. Now is not the best time for me. I'm going in for another battery of tests on Thurs. If you can give me some time...I would very much like to audition the 11a.
George, I'll get back to you once Steve responds.....
WEEZ
Hi Weez,
Sorry to hear of your illness. Get well buddy.
Steve
Take it easy and get well soon :D
thanks for the kind words, fellas
Not sure if that makes me next in line or not. I'd be happy to try it out and then send it to WEEZ if he is feeling up to it at that point.
Guy's ,,Steve has asked that I send the unit back to him,,so unless I'm instructed otherwise,,,,,?
It's packed and ready,and going back today,,just let me know which direction,,pickup is not until 4 pm---thanks --george
Quote from: dangerbird on October 17, 2007, 06:03:52 AM
Guy's ,,Steve has asked that I send the unit back to him,,so unless I'm instructed otherwise,,,,,?
It's packed and ready,and going back today,,just let me know which direction,,pickup is not until 4 pm---thanks --george
Go ahead and send it back to me Dangerbird.
Thanks.
Steve
I must have missed why it was going back?
I was asked by Steve to ship it back to him. Hope that I did not do anything taboo.
Hi Guys,
No Dangerbird, you did not do anything taboo. I really appreciate your time and efforts; all those for that matter. I just need to get it back.
Thanks.
Steve
So, what's the status of the tour?
I think that Steve wants to Modify the existing Bass control to provide even more system flexibility according to his previous posts. Am i right ? I dont think that he is ending the tour,at least i hope not [-o<
Has anyone actually ordered one? Sounds like its worth it so far. Hope the tour is not over.
rollo
Quote from: rollo on October 23, 2007, 07:29:25 AM
Has anyone actually ordered one? Sounds like its worth it so far. Hope the tour is not over.
rollo
See Bipolar.
Wow, so the tour is over, with no explanation other than 'see bipolar' with no link... and then a sentence stating it's over when I found the post here (http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=571.15). Seems out of character from Steve's normally chatty self... hope all is OK... Best of luck in your business and thanks for letting some of us hear your gear.
-Carl
Franky, after seeing what was going on surrounding the tour, especially with a couple of individuals at the Mid Atlantic rave, a friend of mine concurred that I should drop the tour.
If anyone wants an individual audition, that can be arranged.
Take care.
Steve