The Preamp, Amp that got away

Started by rollo, May 21, 2009, 06:03:59 AM

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rollo

Quote from: bpape on May 21, 2009, 06:02:08 PM
I thought I was doing OK.  Doesn't sound like it.  This is what I still have...

4 preamps
1 receiver
1 integrated amp
2 pr mono amps
2 stereo amps
3 cd players
3 SB's
4 SB power supplies
2 DACs
5 pr speakers, 3 that are decent enough to be my primaries.

What I've sold over the years...

Sota Sapphire with Linn ITTOK and Koestsu Rosewood  :duh
Vendetta Research Phono Pre  :duh :duh :duh :duh :duh
Audio Research SP-6C
Berning TF-10
Snell Type A
Infinity RS-1
Rogers LS3/5A


Bryan



Snell type A Nah tell me it a typo. IMO still one of the best EVER made. Oye1

charles
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rollo

Quote from: pmkap on May 21, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
Rollo,

I don't regret your selling the CAT at'all. I'm quite enjoying it. :D/

-Paul


I feel much better now. BTW Paul brought the tweeters to Emils however no one there to take them for you.
  Now just for that I'm going to find a used CAT Ultimate. Linestage only and mod the Loesch to be just a phono stage, so there. BTW that CAT was modded by Ken himself. The power supply mostly. You yust one lucky sonna mun gun. I'm calling Luca to come and renegotiate with you.  :rofl:


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bpape

I bought the A's used in 1985 and kept them until last year.  Finally, it was just too much space being taken up by a speaker that hadn't been played for a while.  The wife finally won that one.

I did enjoy them tremendously.  At one point, I was looking to get the active xover so I could biamp them. 

The pieces I really regret are the TT and the phono stage.  I know I'll never get another Vendetta.  Anybody that has one isn't selling.  If they are, they want silly money for it.

Bryan
I am serious... and don't call me Shirley

Rob S.

ok, it's clear to me that a lot of you are "sick".  I thought I was but my unused collection doesn't even measure:

4 mono amps,
2 tube pre's
5 pr speakers ( 2pr maggies 3pr bookshelf)
3 subs
2 receivers
lots of real cheap stuff too.

Rob S.

PS.....Those of you with TT's and phono pre's that want to sell contact me as I want to get started in vinyl.

No new money spent on audio!!  but starting in 2012!!

bpape

Yes - we're all sick puppies.  Hence the site name...

Gotta love this stuff though.  I love having multiple systems for different listening moods. 

I've been debating on getting back into vinyl but have held off so far.  I really love it but am just not sure I have the storage for all the albums I'd be buying!

Bryan
I am serious... and don't call me Shirley

richidoo

You guys are sick. I think I need to buy more stuff just so I'm not embarrassed to hang around here...    nooooooobie

Shane, Steve lent me the Butlers once and I currently have his AR vt100. One at a time, one at a time!!

stereofool

Rich,

If I can figure out how to get it over there...I do have a Symphonic Line Kraft 250, that is currently just sitting around. As with the others...you are most welcome to borrow it and try it out. There is plenty of SS oooomf with this one. As you know, it won't be the luscious tube sound that you love, but you never know what hits someone between the ears.

WARNING...it is a ball-buster...somewhere in the 100 lb range  :shock: and a bitch to move.

Just let me know if you wanna  :drool:.
Steve
Have you ever noticed.... Anyone going slower than you is an idiot...and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?

richidoo

This month will be a lot of work happening in the sound room, so I think it will be in the way being too heavy to move. I'll hear it next time I come down, we're due!   Sol's coming over this weekend to bias the vt100. Can't wait to hear that again.

Rocket

Hi Guys,

I thought I was the only one crazy enough to keep gear and store it.

I do however go crazy swapping gear and comparing the sound.

Currently I'm doing that with my famed N.E.W. p3 preamp (I've had this baby since 2000)
and a secondhand bel canto pre1 that I bought for $600au.  The pre1 was ever so slightly
more transparent.

Regards

Rod

Bemopti123

Quote from: stereofool on May 22, 2009, 01:31:38 PM
I do have a Symphonic Line Kraft 250, that is currently just sitting around. As with the others...you are most welcome to borrow it and try it out.
WARNING...it is a ball-buster...somewhere in the 100 lb range  :shock: and a bitch to move.

Just let me know if you wanna  :drool:.

Damn, I do not know where you live but I have seen and read about this amp for a while.  It would probably kill the UPS/Fedex gorillas as they attempted to deliver it to someone.  It is a massive piece of equipment, as only Germans will/try to make it.  :D

Bemopti123

Quote from: Rocket on May 22, 2009, 05:42:10 PM
I thought I was the only one crazy enough to keep gear and store it.


I should correct those two wimpy words for a better one, HORDE. 

I really have a hoarding mania, especially for stereo things. 

Some of the things I have sold, whenever I could:

Sonic Frontiers SFL-2 (2 chassis, 1990s top pre)
Sonic Frontiers Power 2 (2001)
Nakamichi PA-7(traded)
Blue Circle BC-2 monoblocks (sold to some dude in NJ)
47 Labs Shigaraki Integrated
2 Audio Refinement Complete Integrated when they were all the rage (early 2000s)
Bel Canto DAC 1.0
Bel Canto DAC 2.0
Morrison ELAD preamp (it is more hype than reality, it sucked.)
Epos ES-11s (2 pairs), stupid, stupid move. :duh
2  Carver M 4.0ts (Major Crapula)....I cannot believe that these Carvers are still sold on Audiogon or Ebay. 

:-P

mgalusha

Threads like this one remind me I should get rid of some stuff.  :roll:

5 amps
4 preamps
6 pr speakers
3 subs
2 cd players
2 SACD players
3 network music players
2 dacs
4 power conditioners
1 turntable
1 arm
3 cartridges (i think)
1 phono pre
way too many cables, and I built two more today. WTF?
1 electronic XO
bunch of drivers
1 cheesy HT receiver
2 headphone amps
2 pr active speakers
1 old Pioneer reel to reel
1 old parametric EQ

since I diy I have parts to build a bunch more stuff and have things in the works and a bench full of test gear.

oh yeah, forgot the cinenova grand 7.1 in the garage that I need to fix.

Very few things I regret selling. I had three of the Vandy subs, they would have worked great with the Abbeys but the GR/Rhythmik subs are better, so maybe no regrets there. I do regret selling my DIY build of the Transcendent SC150's though I do have a pair of killer OPT's waiting for me to build another PP tube amp... 'tis a sickness to be sure.

And I agree on the Carver M4.0T, junk. So bad a guy gave me two of them. One now holds my tubed squeezbox tho, best thing that ever happened to it.

Rocket

Hi Bemopti,

Do you like the bel canto dac 2?

I bought one secondhand for $600au and it has taken the place of my modwright perpetual
technologies dac.

Regards

Rod

Bemopti123

Rocket, I sold the Bel Canto DAC 2.0 years back in order to get me a 47 Labs Shigaraki DAC instead.

The thing I felt about both the 1.0 and the 2.0 is that they are not earthshakers or movers when you put them in. 

This is something that seems to be common among CDP/DAC technologies I have experienced in the 0-1500 USD range. 

Perhaps there will be more differences in my expensive DAC implementations, but I tell you one thing for sure, the sound that both produced was really nothing to write home about. 

Perhaps I am expecting things to change drastically, but in the digital end of things, I really just do not feel major changes. 

BTW, I got my 35th Anniversary Rega Apollo, I need to find a rack space for it and play it to death, to see how much better it is than what I presently consider my standard, the 47 Labs Shigaraki transport+DAC. 

So far I felt that the sound is perhaps a tad clearer, some people might call it "harsher"  but harsh it is not. 

I like the aesthetics of the Rega, with that red led read out, seems something from the 1960-1970s, German like.  It is very well built, heavy, Made in the UK.  Something that cannot be said about much of the equipment that is bought out there. 


Rocket

Hi,

The only really good cdp that I have heard at my home is a cambridge audio 840C player.  I thought it sounded better than my pioneer 507 cdp (g&d clock and digital output board) and perpetual technologies modwright level 2.

The bass was a little better with the cambridge audio cdp.

I thought the bel canto dac 2 was a little better imo.  I find it difficult to hear differences between products because I don't have a very good sonic memory.  By the time I've changed components I keep wonder what differences I can hear.

Regards

Rod