Picked up some Grover SX interconnects based on reading some reviews here.

Started by Deton Nation, February 27, 2010, 10:49:48 AM

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Deton Nation

I am going to replace some Blue Jean cables in my main system from pre to amp. What should I expect?
Mike

shep


mfsoa

Jeez Mike I'm web-stalking you  8)

I haven't heard the Grovers but I remember some saying that the they were more open and revealing than the Realities. Now,I thought the Realities were far more open and dynamic than the Blue Jeans.

So my guess is to expect a great deal more HF information and dynamics through the Grovers vs.BJC and a more up-front sound.

Let us know, this'll be interesting.

-Mike

evan1


Deton Nation

Evan,
Did you notice a sound improvement/change?  Or are they still breaking in.

Mike,
Im getting a restraining ORDER!!!!!

Shep,
ARe they still in your system... you like them?
M

richidoo

Mike (stalkER) you got it about right. From Blue Jeans to Grover is a big jump in openness. The new SX are supposedly a nice balanced wire. The most recent version previous to that which I heard were tilted up compared to my wires.

Mike (stalkEE) I used older grovers for 2 happy years with my Manley Snappers. I liked the combo. I think for the latest version he took out the teflon insulator and added aluminum somehow after hearing JPS' aluminum copper alloy.

I still keep my Blue Jeans around for emergencies, like when fancy wires break, or when a harsh component needs a wet blanket treatment. I love Blue Jeans!

Isobarik

After visiting this site and learning about Grover interconnects, I bought a used set of S (white) cables from a local guy last summer. I use it between my Bel Canto 1.1 DAC and preamp. It replaced a Truth Link which I moved to my top end amplifier. My system uses active Linn Isobariks and Exposure Amplifiers/Crossover.

The Grover took some time to settle in, but provides great detail and dynamics from top to bottom. I have two Harmonic Tech Truth Links. They have great mids and top end. I use them on those amplifiers. The bass amp gets an LAT IC-100D. The preamp to crossover is an LAT IC-200 Mk II.

So I have 5 interconnect cables. The only two that can handle all frequencies well are the Grover and LAT IC-200 Mk II. I always consider the source to be the priority on a system, so I use the Grover at the DAC. It was the least expensive cable and is likely the best one.

mfsoa

Hi Rich,

Yup, I'll use my BJCs on my tuner when I want a low-pass filter for FM hiss...

-Stalker

Deton Nation

Thats what Mike(stalker) said about Blue Jean that they were like wet blankets. Im trying to imagine what a wet blanket sounds like... heavy? Is that it? Heavy handed, not nimble? They are my emergency wire too... actually my second collection of wires, the first being Monster... but that was in the early 90s. So I was a severe novice... now just a novice. lol. So for my Speaker cables I use REality reds. Source BDA-1 to preamp-MAC Palladiums.

I realize that cables do make a difference. I like the bang for the buck method. Hopefully the Grovers make that happen.
I did read that the JPS use the alumcopper alloy. Are they similar sounding interconnects?
M

shep

I've had several versions of Grover's cables and presently have the SX. It's the best of the lot imo, especially good value if you happened to have been in on the original group buy here, which has meant being able to upgrade to each new version for 50$. It is an honest, open, quite transparent presentation. It is not as organic or flowing or engaging as the cable I have from John (of coolcable fame) but might work very well in another system (I'm thinking tubes). In this price range, compromises and limitations are inevitable. The non-believers will tell you "nonsense, which is their right. If I had the money to put where my mouth is, I would plunk down some serious cash for John's "Silkworm +",having a down-scale version of this that he made for me. It's very frustrating knowing how much better cables can acheive and being unable to go for broke...having said that, Grover's cables strike a good ballance between money and performance and since he is always trying to find ways to improve (and might still be ameanable to an ungrading sceam), it's not a bad way to go. The idea of spending a thousand dollars and above for a pair of interconnects appalls me but somehow, with this Nervosa, the "reasonable" ethical mind get's switched off and greedy paws reach into tattered bank accounts  :duh

Deton Nation

Wow $1199 a meter (Silkworm +). Its the price of a component. I guess cables are a component... heh.
I am putting the Grover SX on tubes so I will let you know. I love an organic sound though.. hopefully they dont come across analytical.
M

mfsoa


richidoo

Quote from: Deton Nation on February 27, 2010, 02:35:41 PM
I did read that the JPS use the alumcopper alloy. Are they similar sounding interconnects?

In some ways they are similar, like treble detail, openness. But JPS has no ringing whatsoever, so it sounds quieter, calmer, does not add excitement or flava like most wires. Very not there. I use the lowest level JPS interconnects, about the same price as grovers, but the expensive JPS stuff (majenta, not purple as RobS informs me...) is unbelievable. Carl thinks it is so 'not there' that it has a distinct feeling or "sound." Some wires have a very enjoyable flava, so JPS is not for everybody, but I like it. I've not heard the latest Grovers since all his big changes so my opinion could be out of date.

I don't think the Grovers are analytical. The older versions had a fun sound. Easy to get lost in the music. I think you'll dig it.

Deton Nation

Cool! Cant wait... I look forward to lifting the wet blanket off my system...
But it is truly amazing how a cord can change the sound of your entire system. And since getting the Manley with the added detail (a lot) it makes it easier to hear. Or maybe some cables make less of a difference than others. Not really sure actually. hehe
M

shep

If you think 1000$ is pricey, think of Kubala sosna etc! The higher you go up in quality with the other components, the more cables become components and not just wires to string them together. I am waiting actually for somethings from Grover (a month now  :( ) an unterminated poxer cable and something else I'm not supposed to talk about...which is easy seeing as it isn't here. I don't think the SX are analytical either Rich, they're just not as gracious as those from John. Admitedly "gracious" isn't a very audio term, but in this case it fits the man and his work.