Lenahan ML1 (or Sunday Morning Tease)

evan1 · July 08, 2011, 01:24:56 PM

NY Rave 2007 disc track 3. In the words of Rollo ,"OH MY"

. I wonder if I can squeeze the Spirit 1's into the flight cases. Do you think anyone would notice ?

BobM · July 08, 2011, 01:29:42 PM

Quote from: evan1 on July 08, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
Right now I am listening to a demo disc that Bob had given me. It's track 2 and I believe I am listening to a clarinet.Boy they come to eat, drink and listen and I can't even get a track listing

OK crybaby - I just sent you the listing. (hope you like it)

evan1 · July 08, 2011, 01:32:53 PM

Quote from: BobM on July 08, 2011, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: evan1 on July 08, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
Right now I am listening to a demo disc that Bob had given me. It's track 2 and I believe I am listening to a clarinet.Boy they come to eat, drink and listen and I can't even get a track listing

OK crybaby - I just sent you the listing. (hope you like it)

Embarrassment works all the time

. Only busting your chops . It's a great mix you made.

evan1 · July 08, 2011, 01:40:08 PM

Did anyone notice the use of brass screws to hold the drivers in place ? I better stop ,I may be called a schill

bhobba · July 08, 2011, 07:17:06 PM

Hi Guys

What you found comparing it to the Spirit is exactly what I would expect. Mikes speakers are lined with steel and the version you have has Duelund VSF Copper capacitors which cost about $500 each but are simply the best and are very quick, neutral, accurate and transparent. This is Mikes full on all out build and is why it is called the Reference - and has a price to match unfortunately. But being a 5 inch driver will obviously not go as low and of course the Spirit's will easily best it that way. The ML2's will do that and is in every way a better speaker than the ML1's and I think will give you the best of both worlds.

Don't worry about being thought a shill - I am enthusiastic about both Mike's and Bob Smith's speakers and people have accused me of that before. Most however understand you are simply an enthusiast talking about well - your enthusiasm.

I was actually down at Mikes yesterday hearing some new secret stuff and we were also discussing the ML2 that is being built for me and I will send out to you guys. I am very fortunate in I have a lot of superannuation cash right now and so regardless of the price I get the full all out Reference version anyway. However I think not many are in that fortunate position so I was thinking of getting a slightly lesser ML2 out for you to hear without the hellishly expensive Duelund's. The version I was thinking of is what is called the Plus R which normally uses Mundorf Silver In Oil as a bypass - with bypassing you get about 90% of the performance of the capacitor you bypass with. However I am not a big fan of those capacitors and want it bypassed with Duelunds - being of smaller value they are a lot cheaper. Doing that should get you 90% of the Duelunds performance at a much cheaper cost. How do you guys feel about that? If no one wants to buy it I can get it upgraded to the full Duelunds later.

Thanks
Bill

bhobba · July 08, 2011, 07:18:52 PM

Quote from: evan1 on July 08, 2011, 01:40:08 PMDid anyone notice the use of brass screws to hold the drivers in place ? I better stop ,I may be called a schill

Interesting you bring that up. I noticed them as well and asked Mike about it - get this - they sound better. I thought no way - but Mike is adamant they do.

Thanks
Bill

lonewolfny42 · July 08, 2011, 08:00:37 PM

Quote from: bhobba on July 08, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
Quote from: evan1 on July 08, 2011, 01:40:08 PMDid anyone notice the use of brass screws to hold the drivers in place ? I better stop ,I may be called a schill

Interesting you bring that up. I noticed them as well and asked Mike about it - get this - they sound better. I thought no way - but Mike is adamant they do.

Thanks
Bill

They do...

Brass screws....a tweak that dates back to 2007-2008.

Here's a video...

bhobba · July 08, 2011, 09:46:29 PM

Quote from: lonewolfny42 on July 08, 2011, 08:00:37 PM
They do...Brass screws....a tweak that dates back to 2007-2008. Here's a video...

Well I will stand *expletive*. I generally trust Mike but thought this was a bit too far out there.

Thanks
Bill

goldlizsts · July 09, 2011, 03:43:33 AM

Quote from: bhobba on July 08, 2011, 07:18:52 PM
Quote from: evan1 on July 08, 2011, 01:40:08 PMDid anyone notice the use of brass screws to hold the drivers in place ? I better stop ,I may be called a schill

Interesting you bring that up. I noticed them as well and asked Mike about it - get this - they sound better. I thought no way - but Mike is adamant they do.

Thanks
Bill

One time someone told me some audiophile (no kidding!) found that by placing a coin off the front edge atop the speaker makes a difference. I haven't experimented yet, as I don't remember what coin is required (Canadian, American....), what size..... Something to experiment with

. Brass screws "resonate" better

???

No disrespect toward anyone intended, just a wisecrack.

mfsoa · July 09, 2011, 07:43:08 AM

Certainly the way the ML1s dealt with acoustic guitar was breathtaking-
No sense of energy storage-then-release from the box at all.
No sense of dynamic or transient compression.

That old "clear window" thing, if the gear driving them is up to it...

evan1 · July 09, 2011, 07:47:15 AM

Stay tuned, I have a surprise coming in a little bit

shadowlight · July 09, 2011, 08:08:44 AM

Quote from: evan1 on July 09, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
Stay tuned, I have a surprise coming in a little bit

The surprise is you sold the Spirit and purchase the ML1's

evan1 · July 09, 2011, 08:23:32 AM

Quote from: shadowlight on July 09, 2011, 08:08:44 AM
Quote from: evan1 on July 09, 2011, 07:47:15 AM
Stay tuned, I have a surprise coming in a little bit

The surprise is you sold the Spirit and purchase the ML1's

Nope. Have to hear the ML2 first

evan1 · July 09, 2011, 08:25:15 AM

Here you go....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wkd7Gzd0j2I

bhobba · July 09, 2011, 09:11:29 AM

Wow. Loved it.

I also sent some cables over and from the pictures I thought you had them there. Did you get a chance to try them? I could post stuff about them but my long winded posts about things I have picked up such as Duelunds etc is probably getting a bit boring. Much better to hear what you think of them.

Thanks
Bill