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Started by rollo, April 23, 2021, 01:15:55 PM

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rollo

  Ya have a favorite design ? Two way, Single Driver, Planar, Electrostatic ? and why. I prefer single driver and two way designs for their simplicity and cohesiveness. A linear presentation.


charles
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Nick B

I haven't been very creative over the years trying different designs, although nowadays, I sure wish I had done so. Basically have just used two ways and MTM, with the exception being the Shahinian Diapasons.

I'd love to try a Spatial or Rethm, for example, but the price to satisfy my curiosity would be too steep. There's also the issue of weight with some of these designs. I just don't want to deal with that at my age.
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Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound loom
TWL Digital American II p cords
Custom power cords
JPLAY, HQ Player, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

jimbones

There is no one single solution. I prefer dynamic speakers, no need to be complex 3 way max. i like ribbon for detail but generally they dont have the dynamics of a conventional speaker. I think electrostatics dont have enough meat on the bones for me personally. no soul. Planars can have a sonic signature that I dislike.
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James Edward

Designs that use large drivers are preferable to me. I've done the smaller multiple bass driver designs and I just prefer the meatier presentation of a large driver. In the same vein, I've always liked 2 ways that use a large driver and I don't mind the trade off of less detail of said driver at higher frequencies. Paper and paper composite drivers are my preference. The AMT tweeter in my Legacy Focus was my favorite sounding high frequency driver.
I have a friend in Florida that can't get enough treble and has opposite tastes in reproduction. It's not an age thing; I've known him since we were 12, and it's always been his preference. To each his own...
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P.I.

Quote from: James Edward on April 23, 2021, 03:39:08 PM
Designs that use large drivers are preferable to me. I've done the smaller multiple bass driver designs and I just prefer the meatier presentation of a large driver. In the same vein, I've always liked 2 ways that use a large driver and I don't mind the trade off of less detail of said driver at higher frequencies. Paper and paper composite drivers are my preference. The AMT tweeter in my Legacy Focus was my favorite sounding high frequency driver.
I have a friend in Florida that can't get enough treble and has opposite tastes in reproduction. It's not an age thing; I've known him since we were 12, and it's always been his preference. To each his own...
I get you.

You are talking about what I call "sense of scale". 

There are small speakers that can reproduce essentially full range frequency response.  They cannot however, move the volume of air necessary to move our perception to the suspension of disbelief that gives an illusion of reality.  This is why I prefer high sensitivity systems capable of moving a lot of air in the appropriate frequency ranges.  GR Research open baffle subs absolutely rule with extension down into the 'teens...  An experience, for sure!
"A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument." - Hilmar von Campe

HAL

Extended range open baffle planar over OB servo subs.

OB Push-Pull planars and OB servo subs just sound like music in its original space to me when done correctly.

Dropping off a Berning EA-230 PA with David to get checked out and do the auto bias mod. Should be an interesting contrast to the Orchard Audio Starkrimson monoblocks driving the planars.

S Clark

I'll just have to live with my old box speakers that lack anything bigger than 6 1/2" woofers.  With neither huge drivers or Servo Subs.... poor, poor me.


Speaker-GR Research LS9-XStatik-AltecFlamenco
Amp-Moscode,Dodd,Folsom
Pre-Dodd
Turntable-Vyger,Victor,TechnicSP10MK2
Phonopre-Hagermann,Jolida,GSlee   
Cable-AudioSensibility Wywires TWL
Cartridge-Dynavector,Sumiko
Tonearm-PioneerP3,Jelco
Rythmic sub

rollo

  Good responses so far. Scale and moving air is another perk from larger speakers. At times I miss my Pipedreams speakers for that reason. However the timbre, harmonics and linear presentation is the key for me.
   

charles
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rollo

Quote from: S Clark on April 24, 2021, 05:00:27 AM
I'll just have to live with my old box speakers that lack anything bigger than 6 1/2" woofers.  With neither huge drivers or Servo Subs.... poor, poor me.




I feel your pain, poor Guy.

charles
contact me  at rollo14@verizon.net or visit us on Facebook
Lamm Industries - Aqua Acoustic, Formula & La Scala DAC- INNUOS  - Rethm - Kuzma - QLN - Audio Hungary Qualiton - Fritz speakers -Gigawatt -Vinnie Rossi,TWL, Swiss Cables, Merason DAC.

James Edward

Quote from: rollo on April 24, 2021, 07:44:06 AM
Quote from: S Clark on April 24, 2021, 05:00:27 AM
I'll just have to live with my old box speakers that lack anything bigger than 6 1/2" woofers.  With neither huge drivers or Servo Subs.... poor, poor me.




I feel your pain, poor Guy.

charles
Maybe we could take up a collection...
Luxman L- 590 AX MK2
Chord Qutest DAC
Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Esprit SB
Audience Au24SE
PI Cat6
Spatial Audio M3 Turbo S
Stereo Hsu ULS-15 Mk2
Supra Classic 6.0

S Clark

Quote from: James Edward on April 24, 2021, 12:03:39 PM



Maybe we could take up a collection...
Please, cash only.  Wife needs to know nothing about anything involving stereo and money.   :thumb:
Speaker-GR Research LS9-XStatik-AltecFlamenco
Amp-Moscode,Dodd,Folsom
Pre-Dodd
Turntable-Vyger,Victor,TechnicSP10MK2
Phonopre-Hagermann,Jolida,GSlee   
Cable-AudioSensibility Wywires TWL
Cartridge-Dynavector,Sumiko
Tonearm-PioneerP3,Jelco
Rythmic sub

Nick B

Quote from: S Clark on April 24, 2021, 01:13:18 PM
Quote from: James Edward on April 24, 2021, 12:03:39 PM



Maybe we could take up a collection...
Please, cash only.  Wife needs to know nothing about anything involving stereo and money.   :thumb:

Hmmm...apparently one secret to a happy marriage  :thumb:
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Hattor Big preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Holo Cyan2 dac
Holo Red streamer
Spiritual Sound loom
TWL Digital American II p cords
Custom power cords
JPLAY, HQ Player, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

S Clark

Quote from: Nick B on April 24, 2021, 02:12:48 PM

Hmmm...apparently one secret to a happy marriage  :thumb:

It's more of I don't ask why she needs more shoes, and she doesn't ask why records come in the mail. 
You just don't fix it if it ain't broken. 
Speaker-GR Research LS9-XStatik-AltecFlamenco
Amp-Moscode,Dodd,Folsom
Pre-Dodd
Turntable-Vyger,Victor,TechnicSP10MK2
Phonopre-Hagermann,Jolida,GSlee   
Cable-AudioSensibility Wywires TWL
Cartridge-Dynavector,Sumiko
Tonearm-PioneerP3,Jelco
Rythmic sub

rollo

 
Si Senor. Have a similar situation. Lucky us.

charles
contact me  at rollo14@verizon.net or visit us on Facebook
Lamm Industries - Aqua Acoustic, Formula & La Scala DAC- INNUOS  - Rethm - Kuzma - QLN - Audio Hungary Qualiton - Fritz speakers -Gigawatt -Vinnie Rossi,TWL, Swiss Cables, Merason DAC.

P.I.

Quote from: rollo on April 27, 2021, 09:53:43 AM
 
Si Senor. Have a similar situation. Lucky us.

charles
Oh, yeah.  I've left off a zero in my explanations before!

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