Is old music killing new music?

[tmazz]

An interesting article about the current directions of the music business.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/old-music-killing-new-music/621339/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

[steve]

An interesting article about the current directions of the music business.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/old-music-killing-new-music/621339/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Hi Tom,

I think Bob Seger has a point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoaAb5MnKtY

Cheers

steve

[S Clark]

An interesting article about the current directions of the music business.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/01/old-music-killing-new-music/621339/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Thanks for the link to a very interesting article.  My own listening has gone rather stale... and weeks can go by with my not reaching for an lp to put on the turntable.  Probably most of my current listening is in the kitchen while cooking... saying "Alexa, play music by Eric Satie" or Django, or Mozart string quartets. 
New music?? I guess such a thing exist, but not on any local radio options. 

[P.I.]

There is some great new music... it just ain't Pop, and it sure as hell ain't rap.

There are many sites that link to new releases.  Here are two:

https://www.allmusic.com/newreleases

https://bandcamp.com

[tmazz]

I think the article was not so much about what the consumers are listening to, but more about where the record companies are investing their development money. It seems that rather than spending their time and money on seeking out and developing new artists the record companies are moving towards buying up catalogs of existing music. So for example instead of looking for the next Bruce Springsteen the record companies would rather spend money on buying up the rights to the existing Springsteen music.

I guess we are in a chicken or the egg situation. Are the record companies leaning on old catalogs because the consumers want to buy them or are the consumers buying more vintage music because the record companies are failing to seek out and bring to market new artists and music?

[BobM]

Most of us here have officially entered the "OLD" category. Of course we prefer the music we grew up with, or something today that is similar in style. That includes the decade after we matured, because we all have an open mind, ya' know. My kids prefer the music they heard (as well as some of my old stuff, because they heard it from me) but seem to be open to things that came out during their 20's too. So kids that are teenagers now have a lot more options besides radio. Their exposure is wider, if not better content, at least they have more choices.

So, what am I getting at?

I play and record with a bunch of international musical hobbiests on a site called Bandlab. We generally play rock and roll and some Motown and light jazz. When we collaborate on a song we are thrilled when we get about 1000 plays, But there are also "pop" and "hip hop" artists on that site. You know how many listens they receive? Let's just say that 1000 plays is a poor showing for them.

I have 125 followers on that site. Many of my fellow collaborators have between 100-500 followers. Hip Hop artists have thousands of followers. So what genre of music is most popular? Sure, Bandlab may not be completely representative of the world as a whole, but for a community of international musicians and musical artists I think it speaks loudly to where the focus is.

[_Scotty_]

I found an interesting YouTube channel the other day. That deals with just about all things music. Rick Beato
Channel's home page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJquYOG5EL82sKTfH9aMA9Q
his What Makes This Song Great playlist   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW0NGgv1qnfzb1klL6Vw9B0aiM7ryfXV_
Beware going down the rabbit hole, there are over 100 of these videos
Here's one on Boston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynFNt4tgBJ0
His take on why old music is killing new music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYX1YFiQTDw
Why BOOMERS Hate POP Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUSFpek0PM
He nailed what I find irritating and boring about most of recent pop music I run across.
Hope you find this interesting.
Scotty

[P.I.]

I found an interesting YouTube channel the other day. That deals with just about all things music. Rick Beato
Channel's home page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJquYOG5EL82sKTfH9aMA9Q
his What Makes This Song Great playlist   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW0NGgv1qnfzb1klL6Vw9B0aiM7ryfXV_
Beware going down the rabbit hole, there are over 100 of these videos
Here's one on Boston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynFNt4tgBJ0
His take on why old music is killing new music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYX1YFiQTDw
Why BOOMERS Hate POP Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUSFpek0PM
He nailed what I find irritating and boring about most of recent pop music I run across.
Hope you find this interesting.
Scotty

Rick's site is great.  He has some interesting views on music in general and on a lot of the music that we love.  He is also one helluva guitarist!

[S Clark]

I watched the "Why Boomers Hate Pop music" video, and was so enthralled that I went to some of his other videos.
So I decided to try one of the "Why is this song good" types.
wow.. do yourself a favor and listen to his breakdown of "Kiss from a Rose". 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhgoli8klLA

Scotty warned about the rabbit hole... two 4 hours later, and I'm still watching/listening to these videos!!! 

[P.I.]

I watched the "Why Boomers Hate Pop music" video, and was so enthralled that I went to some of his other videos.
So I decided to try one of the "Why is this song good" types.
wow.. do yourself a favor and listen to his breakdown of "Kiss from a Rose". 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhgoli8klLA

Rick is so knowledgeable, makes sense and is fun to watch.  I've been following him for years...  Good stuff!

[Nick B]

I found an interesting YouTube channel the other day. That deals with just about all things music. Rick Beato
Channel's home page https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJquYOG5EL82sKTfH9aMA9Q
his What Makes This Song Great playlist   https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW0NGgv1qnfzb1klL6Vw9B0aiM7ryfXV_
Beware going down the rabbit hole, there are over 100 of these videos
Here's one on Boston
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynFNt4tgBJ0
His take on why old music is killing new music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYX1YFiQTDw
Why BOOMERS Hate POP Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUSFpek0PM
He nailed what I find irritating and boring about most of recent pop music I run across.
Hope you find this interesting.
Scotty

Scotty,
Thanks for mentioning Rick Beato. That's a great utube channel and I have subscribed to it   

[HAL]

Bandcamp is another source of recent music that is not the norm.

The Hazelrigg Brothers have some of their recordings in HiRez on the site.  Excellent recordings of a variety of music styles.

Was at one of the AES meetings where they did a live recording and have a copy of those two tracks in HiRez as well. 

[P.I.]

I watched the "Why Boomers Hate Pop music" video, and was so enthralled that I went to some of his other videos.
So I decided to try one of the "Why is this song good" types.
wow.. do yourself a favor and listen to his breakdown of "Kiss from a Rose". 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhgoli8klLA

Scotty warned about the rabbit hole... two 4 hours later, and I'm still watching/listening to these videos!!!

Graeme Perkins was the arranger on that recording.  If you want to hear some more of his tastey arrangements, check out his discography:

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/graeme-perkins-mn0001231998/credits

[S Clark]

Graeme Perkins was the arranger on that recording.  If you want to hear some more of his tastey arrangements, check out his discography:

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/graeme-perkins-mn0001231998/credits
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He did Mercury Falling!!!  Love that album and song (Hounds of Winter). 

Well I hope that you and Scotty are happy to know that I've killed almost the whole day listening to song breakdowns.  Just fascinating stuff!

[P.I.]

Graeme Perkins was the arranger on that recording.  If you want to hear some more of his tastey arrangements, check out his discography:

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/graeme-perkins-mn0001231998/credits
[/quote]
He did Mercury Falling!!!  Love that album and song. 

Well I hope that you and Scotty are happy to know that I've killed almost the whole day listening to song breakdowns.  Just fascinating stuff!
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No apologies.  Rick Beato provides some great rabbit trails with his channel and analysis of music and artists.  Entertaining and educational.