Any Raves Scheduled for the Summer ??

[goldlizsts]

Hear ye, hear ye. The only way to do this in the future (and in the past for many of us) is through invitation. Those left out shouldnt feel bad, because they can be included next time. The old style, open door all invited, go ahead and pull my rig apart raves were just masochistic and prone to follow up divorce proceedings. Much kudos to those that managed to pull them off. They were tons of fun, but I for one can't host that and survive.my marriage.

That being said, if anyone ever wants to hear my rig just drop me a note and I will see what I can do in small batches.

Enjoy,
Bob

However, I think STILL once in a while, if the situation warrants, a big shindig would be nice (a more social rather than just-there-for-the-tweak! groupy session is still desirable).  Audio is perhaps a dying art (IMO), that's why we're at where we're at.  May be future raves will be say "FLAC meet", played from a chip the size of a bean (that's too big already!).

[Triode Pete]

     I will probably host a rave in late August or early September.
     However, attendance will have to be limited.  It's just too much having 40 or so audiophiles at my house on one day.  My first priority is to entertain those who have entertained me in the past.  Also I have made several friends from the NY Audio Rave group over the past years, as informal as it may be, who are high on my list of invitees.  My plan is for a rave and not a mini audio show.
     I believe the format of old raves is gone for a few reasons.  Firstly, Phil Lam wanted a vehicle to demo his products.  As he was a dealer, I can certainly understand this; Phil wanted to sell gear.  Secondly few of the NY Audio Rave members have spaces large enough to hold more than a few people at a time.  Lastly, what is the rationale for such an event?.  I think it has to be friendship.
       I don't believe it's an "automatic" that Audio Syndrome members  attend NY Audio Rave gatherings just as it's not an automatic NY Audio Rave members attend Audio Syndrome gatherings.  I believe this should always be done by invitation.
         This is the only way I can see to proceed in the future.  To wit, most of the NY Audio Rave gatherings in recent times have been small in numbers.  Thank you for listening to me.


                                             Jim

OK, Guys, works for me... I'll send out PM's for my August 3rd Rave...

If I forget you & you really want to attend, PM me!

Pete

[rollo]

  Jim, well said. The other part of the Rave is the cost as the hosts well know.
   Phil may have had an agenda with sales however put out a fine spread for all to enjoy. Levi had his whole family cooking for us. Mike hired a cook for those steaks.
    Not all can reciprocate. Dealers and Manufactures who hold Rave events have an opportunity to show their wears and provide a good time for all. Food for lunch and dinner for 40+ attendees is not cheap.
     Maybe $10 a person can cover food and all we need is the host. Twelve hours of fun for $10. I believe we will get more hosts if the food is covered.
     Manufactures are willing to show their gear however a theme for a meeting might just be good idea. Speaker day, Amp day, Preamp day, CDP day TT day and so on. Shoot outs are OK if the Manf's agree.
     Exposure to new products in a home enviorment is very desireable.
     However not all agree with this scenario. Maybe if we define what a Rave is we can better plan the events and get hosts.
   

charles
   
   

[topround]

I think chipping in for a rave is a good idea, it does get expensive. But there may be some that balk over paying, or paying for food they do not like. It then becomes the hosts duty to provide you with what you like, and if they do not like your food, well it could get complicated. Hopefully not.
Booze is expensive, so I think the host will probably always have some on hand, but people should definetly supplement the supply. And I have found people do indeed!

Themes are good. But I think it is up to the host to choose the theme and agree with any gear swapping.

Business models have changed and everyone is trying to sell something these days, that should play into the equation.
Yes, Phil sold gear, but you would never know it!

Ripping systems apart is fun for sure, but I find I like it less and less, so it should be open for the host to decide what he wants and does not want.

I would like to do a rave again, I like the big open raves that for socializing :thumb:they are the most fun.

Playing with gear...we all pretty much have access to lots of gear to play with, luckily

mike

[goldlizsts]

I think chipping in for a rave is a good idea, it does get expensive. But there may be some that balk over paying, or paying for food they do not like. It then becomes the hosts duty to provide you with what you like, and if they do not like your food, well it could get complicated. Hopefully not.
Booze is expensive, so I think the host will probably always have some on hand, but people should definetly supplement the supply. And I have found people do indeed!

Themes are good. But I think it is up to the host to choose the theme and agree with any gear swapping.

Business models have changed and everyone is trying to sell something these days, that should play into the equation.
Yes, Phil sold gear, but you would never know it!

Ripping systems apart is fun for sure, but I find I like it less and less, so it should be open for the host to decide what he wants and does not want.

I would like to do a rave again, I like the big open raves that for socializing :thumb:they are the most fun.

Playing with gear...we all pretty much have access to lots of gear to play with, luckily

mike

Didn't I say looong ago that we should all kick in.  Well, whoever's graceful enough.  Dutch style....  Even IF say a few people footing the bill for a given event, it'd be a big financial relief on the host, who's gracious enough to lend ou this/her real estate for the event already.  I'd absolutely have NO reservation chipping in.  In the past, some of us had made the effort of bringing at least a bottle.  That's only right, IMO.  Whoever's UNwilling to contribute is perhaps look upon as just being stingy.  I'd have no problem with that.  There'll always be people like that.   It takes all kinds, as long as we're all sociable, with "having a good time" as the ultimate goal.

Shek

[rollo]

Mike I agree the host calls the shots. The gear swapping needs to be controlled better.
   What I meant about theme was say CDP day, Amp day, speaker day. If one component is changed using the same ancillary gear we can evaluate the differences. Just changing two things or more does not cut it. We learn nothing.
    Raves to me are a social event. It is hard to demo anything with a  noisy crowd. All having fun talking the talk as it should be. However some respect for the Manf. demo would be nice.
     Or just a nice day listening to the hosts system. It is cool to set up an outdoor system s well. Exposure to new gear or trends is a good thing.
     We have a good bunch of audiophiles , manf's, dealers to make a good day.
       Mike your theme of LPs only was a VG idea. Computer audio would be a good theme as well. USB DAC day oh my !
      Anyways we need hosts. I also think we need a coordinator. Barry has been kind enough to help out big time. Back in the day Levi was a godsent. Maybe some structure would help. I don;t know just throwing it out there.


charles
     

[machinehead]

Barry is DA man. I vote for him... Sexually and for the uh coordinator of all great events big small and Irish undersized like me.
We all have new gear to bring too.
M

[Emil]

Those who have thrown raves understand that not everyone has the room to host raves so dont sweat it
Its always been a pleasure throwing a rave for my fellow philes.
Sure the cost and work involved is not insignificant but I will do it again in a heartbeat when I get the chance again.
If we want to   collect some money it should go to the hosts wife or significant other in a form of a gift card or something for putting up with a house full of geeks as my daughter calls us.

[topround]

Excellent idea Emil!
That would be a great way to ensure more raves!

[topround]

Honestly I don't think raves are good place for Manufacturers to showcase their gear.
We have the NJ Audio Society , the NY Audiophile Society , the Connecticut Audio Society, these guys have scheduled meetings, with formats. That is where a manufacturer should send a piece for people to hear.
Raves are parties for people to eat drink and BS, manuf's are ill served if they are hoping to sell gear at a rave.

If you want to really understand a piece it has to be in your system, having everyone hear a piece in a strange system may give you an idea, and that idea may translate well into your system, or not. But you really won't know unless you try it in your system, and not with a bunch of people eating and drinking and talking all over the house.

That is my opinion, raves are parties to show off our systems, and to get everyone together and socialize, and you know what?...they are a lot of fun.

Perhaps they will come back again, I hope to do one in Sept or October, and it will be vinyl and PC audio only

[goldlizsts]

........................ Anyways we need hosts. I also think we need a coordinator. Barry has been kind enough to help out big time. Back in the day Levi was a godsent. Maybe some structure would help. I don;t know just throwing it out there.

charles
   

I said sometime ago we were just a bunch of loosy goosy guys, a bunch of "loosers" (mind you, it has a double "O" in it, not single "O"), meaning we were never organized.  So, I absolutely agree, for a group to last, there's got to be some structure.  A "HOST" is a good start.  Perhaps a coordinator is necessary.  IF we're going to do we've been saying, have everybody involved, we'd better have a coordinator.  He/she should at least be coordinating who's bringing what, right? 

[goldlizsts]

Honestly I don't think raves are good place for Manufacturers to showcase their gear.
We have the NJ Audio Society , the NY Audiophile Society , the Connecticut Audio Society, these guys have scheduled meetings, with formats. That is where a manufacturer should send a piece for people to hear.
Raves are parties for people to eat drink and BS, manuf's are ill served if they are hoping to sell gear at a rave.

If you want to really understand a piece it has to be in your system, having everyone hear a piece in a strange system may give you an idea, and that idea may translate well into your system, or not. But you really won't know unless you try it in your system, and not with a bunch of people eating and drinking and talking all over the house.

That is my opinion, raves are parties to show off our systems, and to get everyone together and socialize, and you know what?...they are a lot of fun.

Perhaps they will come back again, I hope to do one in Sept or October, and it will be vinyl and PC audio only

I disagree.  At our raves, we usually have so many people bringing their gear already.  Having a manufacturer there to show off their new creations, to demo the virtues of their stuff, not a bad idea at all! 

When was it ever, if ever, we had a manufacturer there and we didn't have a party anyway?

[BobM]

Letting a manufacturer show off a piece of equipment may very well fit into the hosts plan, especially if they are curious and have an interest in that piece of equipment. However, it gets out of hand when a manufacturer just shows up with stuff then expects it to be put into the system for a period of time, or the same pieces keep showing up at meeting after meeting.

It should ALWAYS be the hosts call as to what they will and will not allow and how they want things to go for the day. Any manufacturer should give them the courtesy of checking ahead of time to see what the host desires and how they want it run.

I always get scared when there are 3-4 audiophiles on their hands and knees around an expensive system, swapping wires and amps and such. There's a lot invested in our systems and one "oops" can lead to a costly and time consuming repair. It has definitely happened before.

[rollo]

Honestly I don't think raves are good place for Manufacturers to showcase their gear.
We have the NJ Audio Society , the NY Audiophile Society , the Connecticut Audio Society, these guys have scheduled meetings, with formats. That is where a manufacturer should send a piece for people to hear.
Raves are parties for people to eat drink and BS, manuf's are ill served if they are hoping to sell gear at a rave.

If you want to really understand a piece it has to be in your system, having everyone hear a piece in a strange system may give you an idea, and that idea may translate well into your system, or not. But you really won't know unless you try it in your system, and not with a bunch of people eating and drinking and talking all over the house.

That is my opinion, raves are parties to show off our systems, and to get everyone together and socialize, and you know what?...they are a lot of fun.

Perhaps they will come back again, I hope to do one in Sept or October, and it will be vinyl and PC audio only

    You forgot the Audiosyndrome as well.

charles

[topround]

I would like to do a rave in October.
Bunch of new stuff, new amp, new preamp, new phono pre.
and new cables.
Amp is here , preamp is being built as I write and phono pre..parts are ordered for a LR Riaa pre.
Hopefeully they play nice together

Maybe Oct. 19th?